Visualizing cyclic symmetry constraints

JM
Joe Metrisin (US)
Fri, May 15, 2026 11:26 AM

Does anyone know of a way (possibly an undocumented command) to visualize
the internal CE's created by ANSYS when doing a cyclic symmetry analysis
(CYCLIC command).  For reasons that take too long to explain, I'm running
this model in "Classic" instead of WB and I'm getting some nodes on the
cyclic boundary that are deforming improperly.  It's hard to debug the
problem without seeing the CE's being generated.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

http://www.kratosdefense.com/

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561)427-6346 Office | +1 (772)834-4156 Mobile

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Does anyone know of a way (possibly an undocumented command) to visualize the internal CE's created by ANSYS when doing a cyclic symmetry analysis (CYCLIC command). For reasons that take too long to explain, I'm running this model in "Classic" instead of WB and I'm getting some nodes on the cyclic boundary that are deforming improperly. It's hard to debug the problem without seeing the CE's being generated. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead <http://www.kratosdefense.com/> 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561)427-6346 Office | +1 (772)834-4156 Mobile Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. _____
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Mitch Voehl
Mon, May 18, 2026 5:32 AM

Joe,

Possibly, yes.  I recall that I have been able to list or visualize internally generated constraint equations created by bonded contact.  I suspect constraint equations internally generated by cyclic symmetry would be handled in a similar manner.

From:

https://www.padtinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/PADT-Webinar-ConstraintEquations-2012_04_27.pdf

CELIST, NEQN1, NEQN2, NINC, Option
– Lists the CE’s
– Option is:
• ANY – list if any of the nodes in the CE are selected
• ALL – list of all of the nodes in the CE are selected
• INTE – List internal CE’s created as MPC’s (solu only)
• CONV – conert internal to external (solu only)

The PyANSYS manual says:

This command is valid in any processor. However, the INTE and CONV options are only valid in the Solution processor after a solve command has been issued.

You may have to do this after running the solution.

/SOLU
SOLVE

CELIST,ALL,,,CONV
/PSYM,CE,1
NPLOT,ALL  ! or EPLOT,ALL, etc.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 05/15/2026 6:26 AM CDT Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

Does anyone know of a way (possibly an undocumented command) to visualize
the internal CE's created by ANSYS when doing a cyclic symmetry analysis
(CYCLIC command).  For reasons that take too long to explain, I'm running
this model in "Classic" instead of WB and I'm getting some nodes on the
cyclic boundary that are deforming improperly.  It's hard to debug the
problem without seeing the CE's being generated.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

http://www.kratosdefense.com/

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561)427-6346 Office | +1 (772)834-4156 Mobile

Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

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Joe, Possibly, yes. I recall that I have been able to list or visualize internally generated constraint equations created by bonded contact. I suspect constraint equations internally generated by cyclic symmetry would be handled in a similar manner. From: https://www.padtinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/PADT-Webinar-ConstraintEquations-2012_04_27.pdf CELIST, NEQN1, NEQN2, NINC, Option – Lists the CE’s – Option is: • ANY – list if any of the nodes in the CE are selected • ALL – list of all of the nodes in the CE are selected • INTE – List internal CE’s created as MPC’s (solu only) • CONV – conert internal to external (solu only) The PyANSYS manual says: This command is valid in any processor. However, the INTE and CONV options are only valid in the Solution processor after a solve command has been issued. You may have to do this after running the solution. /SOLU SOLVE … CELIST,ALL,,,CONV /PSYM,CE,1 NPLOT,ALL ! or EPLOT,ALL, etc. … -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 www.summitanalysis.com Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 05/15/2026 6:26 AM CDT Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a way (possibly an undocumented command) to visualize > the internal CE's created by ANSYS when doing a cyclic symmetry analysis > (CYCLIC command). For reasons that take too long to explain, I'm running > this model in "Classic" instead of WB and I'm getting some nodes on the > cyclic boundary that are deforming improperly. It's hard to debug the > problem without seeing the CE's being generated. > > > > Joseph T Metrisin > > Structures Lead > > > > <http://www.kratosdefense.com/> > > 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA > > +1 (561)427-6346 Office | +1 (772)834-4156 Mobile > > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com > > > > Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com > > > > Confidentiality Note: > > The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are > proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you received this communication in error, please delete the message and > immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. > > _____ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org > To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org > If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
JM
Joe Metrisin (US)
Mon, May 18, 2026 12:35 PM

Thanks Mitch.  I tried that but the CELIST says no internal equations generated.  ☹

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Joe,

Possibly, yes.  I recall that I have been able to list or visualize internally generated constraint equations created by bonded contact.  I suspect constraint equations internally generated by cyclic symmetry would be handled in a similar manner.

From:

https://urldefense.com/v3/https://www.padtinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/PADT-Webinar-ConstraintEquations-2012_04_27.pdf;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!aFqe92Lb9L6J9DhnJqSFsK2Y0kkuU6LpFyc3ZzuHPHOHmTeWwvIrFanMWkuZFkkV0PCfN2Xn-yu-880kQXeA0SMXQQ$

CELIST, NEQN1, NEQN2, NINC, Option
– Lists the CE’s
– Option is:
• ANY – list if any of the nodes in the CE are selected • ALL – list of all of the nodes in the CE are selected • INTE – List internal CE’s created as MPC’s (solu only) • CONV – conert internal to external (solu only)

The PyANSYS manual says:

This command is valid in any processor. However, the INTE and CONV options are only valid in the Solution processor after a solve command has been issued.

You may have to do this after running the solution.

/SOLU
SOLVE

CELIST,ALL,,,CONV
/PSYM,CE,1
NPLOT,ALL  ! or EPLOT,ALL, etc.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
https://urldefense.com/v3/http://www.summitanalysis.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!aFqe92Lb9L6J9DhnJqSFsK2Y0kkuU6LpFyc3ZzuHPHOHmTeWwvIrFanMWkuZFkkV0PCfN2Xn-yu-880kQXeFtfv-xA$

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 05/15/2026 6:26 AM CDT Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

Does anyone know of a way (possibly an undocumented command) to
visualize the internal CE's created by ANSYS when doing a cyclic
symmetry analysis (CYCLIC command).  For reasons that take too long to
explain, I'm running this model in "Classic" instead of WB and I'm
getting some nodes on the cyclic boundary that are deforming
improperly.  It's hard to debug the problem without seeing the CE's being generated.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

<http://www.kratosdefense.com/ >

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561)427-6346 Office | +1 (772)834-4156 Mobile

Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

Visit our website:  <https://kratosdefense.com/ >
https://kratosdefense.com

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Thanks Mitch. I tried that but the CELIST says no internal equations generated. ☹ -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2026 1:32 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mitch Voehl <mitchpublic@voehl.us> Subject: [External] - [Xansys] Re: Visualizing cyclic symmetry constraints CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Joe, Possibly, yes. I recall that I have been able to list or visualize internally generated constraint equations created by bonded contact. I suspect constraint equations internally generated by cyclic symmetry would be handled in a similar manner. From: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.padtinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/PADT-Webinar-ConstraintEquations-2012_04_27.pdf__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!aFqe92Lb9L6J9DhnJqSFsK2Y0kkuU6LpFyc3ZzuHPHOHmTeWwvIrFanMWkuZFkkV0PCfN2Xn-yu-880kQXeA0SMXQQ$ CELIST, NEQN1, NEQN2, NINC, Option – Lists the CE’s – Option is: • ANY – list if any of the nodes in the CE are selected • ALL – list of all of the nodes in the CE are selected • INTE – List internal CE’s created as MPC’s (solu only) • CONV – conert internal to external (solu only) The PyANSYS manual says: This command is valid in any processor. However, the INTE and CONV options are only valid in the Solution processor after a solve command has been issued. You may have to do this after running the solution. /SOLU SOLVE … CELIST,ALL,,,CONV /PSYM,CE,1 NPLOT,ALL ! or EPLOT,ALL, etc. … -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.summitanalysis.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!aFqe92Lb9L6J9DhnJqSFsK2Y0kkuU6LpFyc3ZzuHPHOHmTeWwvIrFanMWkuZFkkV0PCfN2Xn-yu-880kQXeFtfv-xA$ Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 05/15/2026 6:26 AM CDT Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a way (possibly an undocumented command) to > visualize the internal CE's created by ANSYS when doing a cyclic > symmetry analysis (CYCLIC command). For reasons that take too long to > explain, I'm running this model in "Classic" instead of WB and I'm > getting some nodes on the cyclic boundary that are deforming > improperly. It's hard to debug the problem without seeing the CE's being generated. > > > > Joseph T Metrisin > > Structures Lead > > > > <http://www.kratosdefense.com/ > > > 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA > > +1 (561)427-6346 Office | +1 (772)834-4156 Mobile > > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com > > > > Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/ > > https://kratosdefense.com > > > > Confidentiality Note: > > The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are > proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, > please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. > > _____ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list