*VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments? From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS' unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each element
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Hello Matt,
beam and pipe elements have i and j end results to pull from. Etable and
query from the tabled results.
Example for Beam188 etable and sequence numbers are listed for each
directional force and moments as seen in image.
[image: image.png]
Thanks,
Nelson
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM Matthew Ridzon via Xansys <
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments?
From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS'
unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it
listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each
element
*VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each
element
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Nelson,
Thank you for this information. But ETAB is not the syntax used in the *VGET commands I cited. Why isn’t this syntax for *VGET discussed in Help? Is it an old undocumented syntax?
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho nelsonho567@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2024 1:01 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Matthew Ridzon Matt@prime-engineer.com
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hello Matt,
beam and pipe elements have i and j end results to pull from. Etable and query from the tabled results.
Example for Beam188 etable and sequence numbers are listed for each directional force and moments as seen in image.
[cid:image001.png@01DA999E.0F64FCD0]
Thanks,
Nelson
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM Matthew Ridzon via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments? From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS' unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each element
Matt Ridzon, PE, MSME
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Hi Matt,
https://forum.ansys.com/forums/topic/ploting-listing-axial-forces-in-the-beam188-or-link/
mentioned in the forum you can table out the values for all selected
forces for I and J ends.
"ETABLE,AXIAL,SMISC,1"
PRETABLE
This will bulk print all your forces.
You can query the etable values using *get for single parameters or *vget
for array storage.
When using both *get and vget you must issue the ETABLE before proceeding
or it will not recognize your input.
See below for *vget *mention from Ansys help.
*Table 243: VGET POST1 Items, Entity = ELEM
Entity = ELEM, ENTNUM = n (element number)
*VGET
https://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_VGET_st.html
, ParR, ELEM, n, Item1, IT1NUM, , , KLOOP
Item1IT1NUMDescription
ETAB Label Any user-defined element table label (see ETABLE
https://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_ETABLE.html
command)
Thanks,
Nelson
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 3:59 PM Matthew Ridzon Matt@prime-engineer.com
wrote:
Nelson,
Thank you for this information. But ETAB is not the syntax used in the
*VGET commands I cited. Why isn’t this syntax for *VGET discussed in
Help? Is it an old undocumented syntax?
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho nelsonho567@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2024 1:01 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Matthew Ridzon Matt@prime-engineer.com
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hello Matt,
beam and pipe elements have i and j end results to pull from. Etable and
query from the tabled results.
Example for Beam188 etable and sequence numbers are listed for each
directional force and moments as seen in image.
Thanks,
Nelson
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM Matthew Ridzon via Xansys <
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments?
From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS'
unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it
listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each
element
*VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each
element
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Well, I found the problem. Originally, a colleague shared the syntax with me, claiming it worked. But lo and behold, it doesn’t work. After running a quick test, I realize the syntax is bogus since *VGET,,,,BEAM (beam in 5th field) is unsupported. The solver output file gave an error that solved the mystery. Therefore, I’ll revert to Nelson’s suggestion with *VGET,,ELEM,,ETAB. Thanks!
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho nelsonho567@gmail.com
Sent: April 29, 2024 2:21 AM
To: Matthew Ridzon Matt@prime-engineer.com
Cc: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hi Matt,
https://forum.ansys.com/forums/topic/ploting-listing-axial-forces-in-the-beam188-or-link/
mentioned in the forum you can table out the values for all selected forces for I and J ends.
"ETABLE,AXIAL,SMISC,1"
PRETABLE
This will bulk print all your forces.
You can query the etable values using *get for single parameters or *vget for array storage.
When using both *get and *vget you must issue the ETABLE before proceeding or it will not recognize your input.
See below for *vget mention from Ansys help.
Table 243: *VGET POST1 Items, Entity = ELEM
Entity = ELEM, ENTNUM = n (element number)
*VGEThttps://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_VGET_st.html, ParR, ELEM, n, Item1, IT1NUM, , , KLOOP
Item1
IT1NUM
Description
ETAB
Label
Any user-defined element table label (see ETABLEhttps://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_ETABLE.html command)
Thanks,
Nelson
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 3:59 PM Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com> wrote:
Nelson,
Thank you for this information. But ETAB is not the syntax used in the *VGET commands I cited. Why isn’t this syntax for *VGET discussed in Help? Is it an old undocumented syntax?
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho <nelsonho567@gmail.commailto:nelsonho567@gmail.com>
Sent: April 27, 2024 1:01 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>
Cc: Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com>
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hello Matt,
beam and pipe elements have i and j end results to pull from. Etable and query from the tabled results.
Example for Beam188 etable and sequence numbers are listed for each directional force and moments as seen in image.
[cid:image001.png@01DA9A59.136ABCA0]
Thanks,
Nelson
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM Matthew Ridzon via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments? From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS' unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each element
Matt Ridzon, PE, MSME
Sr. Engineering Analyst
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Folks, I have another question about beam results. VGET outputs data from node I or J of a chosen beam element with SMISC data. In theory, the data at I should be equal and opposite of J for equilibrium to exist. For example, if node I reports 10 lbf, node J will report -10 lbf. For this discussion, let’s assume the beam is only loaded axially. However, having the SMISC data from I and J doesn’t tell me if the beam is in compression or tension. Is there a way to know if a beam element is in tension or compression?
—Matt
From: Matthew Ridzon
Sent: April 29, 2024 5:27 PM
To: Nelson Ho nelsonho567@gmail.com
Cc: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: RE: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Well, I found the problem. Originally, a colleague shared the syntax with me, claiming it worked. But lo and behold, it doesn’t work. After running a quick test, I realize the syntax is bogus since *VGET,,,,BEAM (beam in 5th field) is unsupported. The solver output file gave an error that solved the mystery. Therefore, I’ll revert to Nelson’s suggestion with *VGET,,ELEM,,ETAB. Thanks!
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho <nelsonho567@gmail.commailto:nelsonho567@gmail.com>
Sent: April 29, 2024 2:21 AM
To: Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com>
Cc: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hi Matt,
https://forum.ansys.com/forums/topic/ploting-listing-axial-forces-in-the-beam188-or-link/
mentioned in the forum you can table out the values for all selected forces for I and J ends.
"ETABLE,AXIAL,SMISC,1"
PRETABLE
This will bulk print all your forces.
You can query the etable values using *get for single parameters or *vget for array storage.
When using both *get and *vget you must issue the ETABLE before proceeding or it will not recognize your input.
See below for *vget mention from Ansys help.
Table 243: *VGET POST1 Items, Entity = ELEM
Entity = ELEM, ENTNUM = n (element number)
*VGEThttps://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_VGET_st.html, ParR, ELEM, n, Item1, IT1NUM, , , KLOOP
Item1
IT1NUM
Description
ETAB
Label
Any user-defined element table label (see ETABLEhttps://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_ETABLE.html command)
Thanks,
Nelson
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 3:59 PM Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com> wrote:
Nelson,
Thank you for this information. But ETAB is not the syntax used in the *VGET commands I cited. Why isn’t this syntax for *VGET discussed in Help? Is it an old undocumented syntax?
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho <nelsonho567@gmail.commailto:nelsonho567@gmail.com>
Sent: April 27, 2024 1:01 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>
Cc: Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com>
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hello Matt,
beam and pipe elements have i and j end results to pull from. Etable and query from the tabled results.
Example for Beam188 etable and sequence numbers are listed for each directional force and moments as seen in image.
[cid:image001.png@01DA9BEE.E75AA4D0]
Thanks,
Nelson
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM Matthew Ridzon via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments? From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS' unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each element
*VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each element
Matt Ridzon, PE, MSME
Sr. Engineering Analyst
Email matt@prime-engineer.commailto:matt@prime-engineer.com<mailto:matt@prime-engineer.commailto:matt@prime-engineer.com>
Mail 266 Main St, Burlington, VT 05401
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Hi,
The element table item (smiscc,1 or 14) are signed: if negative, the beam is under compression, otherwise it is tensioned.
Best regards,
Félix Zabala Falcó
Meyer Werft GmbH&Co.KG
Papenburg (Germany)
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Betreff: [Xansys] Re: *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Folks, I have another question about beam results. VGET outputs data from node I or J of a chosen beam element with SMISC data. In theory, the data at I should be equal and opposite of J for equilibrium to exist. For example, if node I reports 10 lbf, node J will report -10 lbf. For this discussion, let’s assume the beam is only loaded axially. However, having the SMISC data from I and J doesn’t tell me if the beam is in compression or tension. Is there a way to know if a beam element is in tension or compression?
—Matt
From: Matthew Ridzon
Sent: April 29, 2024 5:27 PM
To: Nelson Ho nelsonho567@gmail.com
Cc: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: RE: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Well, I found the problem. Originally, a colleague shared the syntax with me, claiming it worked. But lo and behold, it doesn’t work. After running a quick test, I realize the syntax is bogus since *VGET,,,,BEAM (beam in 5th field) is unsupported. The solver output file gave an error that solved the mystery. Therefore, I’ll revert to Nelson’s suggestion with *VGET,,ELEM,,ETAB. Thanks!
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho <nelsonho567@gmail.commailto:nelsonho567@gmail.com>
Sent: April 29, 2024 2:21 AM
To: Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com>
Cc: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hi Matt,
https://forum.ansys.com/forums/topic/ploting-listing-axial-forces-in-the-beam188-or-link/
mentioned in the forum you can table out the values for all selected forces for I and J ends.
"ETABLE,AXIAL,SMISC,1"
PRETABLE
This will bulk print all your forces.
You can query the etable values using *get for single parameters or *vget for array storage.
When using both *get and *vget you must issue the ETABLE before proceeding or it will not recognize your input.
See below for *vget mention from Ansys help.
Table 243: *VGET POST1 Items, Entity = ELEM Entity = ELEM, ENTNUM = n (element number) *VGEThttps://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_VGET_st.html, ParR, ELEM, n, Item1, IT1NUM, , , KLOOP
Item1
IT1NUM
Description
ETAB
Label
Any user-defined element table label (see ETABLEhttps://ansyshelp.ansys.com/Views/Secured/corp/v241/en/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_ETABLE.html command)
Thanks,
Nelson
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 3:59 PM Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com> wrote:
Nelson,
Thank you for this information. But ETAB is not the syntax used in the *VGET commands I cited. Why isn’t this syntax for *VGET discussed in Help? Is it an old undocumented syntax?
—Matt
From: Nelson Ho <nelsonho567@gmail.commailto:nelsonho567@gmail.com>
Sent: April 27, 2024 1:01 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>
Cc: Matthew Ridzon <Matt@prime-engineer.commailto:Matt@prime-engineer.com>
Subject: Re: [Xansys] *VGET for Beam Forces and Moments
Hello Matt,
beam and pipe elements have i and j end results to pull from. Etable and query from the tabled results.
Example for Beam188 etable and sequence numbers are listed for each directional force and moments as seen in image.
[cid:image001.png@01DA9BEE.E75AA4D0]
Thanks,
Nelson
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM Matthew Ridzon via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.orgmailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:
Folks,
Has anyone seen this *VGET syntax for beam element forces and moments? From what I can tell, HELP does not document it. I looked at one of ANSYS' unofficial websites for "undocumented" APDL commands and didn't find it listed there either. Does this syntax work for beams?
*VGET,elem_data(1,1),elem,,beam,axial ! Axial force in each element *VGET,elem_data(1,2),elem,,beam,shear_y ! Shear force in Y for each element *VGET,elem_data(1,3),elem,,beam,shear_z ! Shear force in Z for each element *VGET,elem_data(1,4),elem,,beam,torsion ! Torsional moment in each element *VGET,elem_data(1,5),elem,,beam,moment_y ! Bending moment about Y for each element *VGET,elem_data(1,6),elem,,beam,moment_z ! Bending moment about Z for each element
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