How to get node count in an area- WB

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Kelly, Andrew
Tue, Feb 16, 2016 6:26 PM

I'm a wee bit late to this thread and barely paying attention (oh, how I wish the old forum was working), but ...

Correct that the DS.DAT command file generated by Mechanical Application doesn't have geometry.

Can you make a Named Selection of the face(s), then run the add a command object per Martins suggestion?  The named selection comes across as an APDL component of nodes.  CMSEL,S,(name) selects the nodes.  Then you can use your favorite commands to count them.  Remember to add NSEL,all to your command object if you're going to actually run the solution.

-- Andrew

Andrew Kelly, P.E.
Engineering Manager, Load
Honeywell | Sensing & Productivity Solutions
2080 Arlingate Lane
Columbus, OH 43228
Office:  614.850.7818
Toll Free:  800.848.6564
Fax:  614.850.1111

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:16:14 +0000
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I agree that the APDL solution doesn't work, but for a different reason.  I believe that APDL commands are written to the DS.DAT and only executed in the core kernel (e.g. at solve time).  There is no geometry at all in the DS.DAT, not even WB geometry.

Best regards,

Bram Weisman, P.E.
Senior Principal Engineer - Mechanical Design

Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998.

SBM Offshore USA, Inc.
Website: www.sbmoffshore.comhttp://www.sbmoffshore.com

This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of it's affiliates.

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On 15/02/2016 13:21, Andrew Sims wrote:

Another thought, untested - I see that you have the solutions using the named selection methods. If for some reason you did want to use APDL from WB, maybe you could add a command snippet to do what you want as Juergen suggested, output the data somehow (parameter, write file, log file...) and then include the /EOF or /EXIT command before the solve command to exit without actually solving.

But the APDL solution doesn't work in Workbench because the representation of geometry is different.

--
Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services,
Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK.
www.tynecomp.co.ukhttp://www.tynecomp.co.uk

I'm a wee bit late to this thread and barely paying attention (oh, how I wish the old forum was working), but ... Correct that the DS.DAT command file generated by Mechanical Application doesn't have geometry. Can you make a Named Selection of the face(s), then run the add a command object per Martins suggestion? The named selection comes across as an APDL component of nodes. CMSEL,S,(name) selects the nodes. Then you can use your favorite commands to count them. Remember to add NSEL,all to your command object if you're going to actually run the solution. -- Andrew Andrew Kelly, P.E. Engineering Manager, Load Honeywell | Sensing & Productivity Solutions 2080 Arlingate Lane Columbus, OH 43228 Office: 614.850.7818 Toll Free: 800.848.6564 Fax: 614.850.1111 andrew.kelly@honeywell.com<mailto:andrew.kelly@honeywell.com> measurementsensors.honeywell.com Twitter: @HoneywellNow ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:16:14 +0000 From: "Weisman, Bram" <Bram.Weisman@sbmoffshore.com<mailto:Bram.Weisman@sbmoffshore.com>> To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home <xansys-temp@xansystest.info<mailto:xansys-temp@xansystest.info>> Subject: Re: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB Message-ID: <DD5A0BC48AAB3547AC9AD239BA9BD6BE8478B7B3@USHOUMBX01.corpnet.singlebuoy.com<mailto:DD5A0BC48AAB3547AC9AD239BA9BD6BE8478B7B3@USHOUMBX01.corpnet.singlebuoy.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I agree that the APDL solution doesn't work, but for a different reason. I believe that APDL commands are written to the DS.DAT and only executed in the core kernel (e.g. at solve time). There is no geometry at all in the DS.DAT, not even WB geometry. Best regards, Bram Weisman, P.E. Senior Principal Engineer - Mechanical Design Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998. SBM Offshore USA, Inc. Website: www.sbmoffshore.com<http://www.sbmoffshore.com> This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of it's affiliates. -----Original Message----- From: Xansys-temp [mailto:xansys-temp-bounces@xansystest.info] On Behalf Of Martin Liddle Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:57 AM To: xansys-temp@xansystest.info<mailto:xansys-temp@xansystest.info> Subject: Re: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB On 15/02/2016 13:21, Andrew Sims wrote: > > Another thought, untested - I see that you have the solutions using the named selection methods. If for some reason you did want to use APDL from WB, maybe you could add a command snippet to do what you want as Juergen suggested, output the data somehow (parameter, write file, log file...) and then include the /EOF or /EXIT command before the solve command to exit without actually solving. > But the APDL solution doesn't work in Workbench because the representation of geometry is different. -- Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK. www.tynecomp.co.uk<http://www.tynecomp.co.uk>
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Benjamin F Franklin (CAE-METHODS & STRU)
Wed, Feb 17, 2016 3:25 AM

Just putting my thought.

Finding no of nodes attached with a surface requires at least 4 to 5 steps to be followed. Since  Workbench software was branded as a FEA tool for quick solution, I think these no of  steps (effort) are not looking good.

I feel, Ansys Inc can work for an easy and direct way to find no of nodes/elements attached to any surface. Or they can release ACT for this kind of requirement.

Regards,
F.Benjamin Franklin,
Ashok Leyland Technical Centre,
India.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:57 PM
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Subject: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB

I'm a wee bit late to this thread and barely paying attention (oh, how I wish the old forum was working), but ...

Correct that the DS.DAT command file generated by Mechanical Application doesn't have geometry.

Can you make a Named Selection of the face(s), then run the add a command object per Martins suggestion?  The named selection comes across as an APDL component of nodes.  CMSEL,S,(name) selects the nodes.  Then you can use your favorite commands to count them.  Remember to add NSEL,all to your command object if you're going to actually run the solution.

-- Andrew

Andrew Kelly, P.E.
Engineering Manager, Load
Honeywell | Sensing & Productivity Solutions
2080 Arlingate Lane
Columbus, OH 43228
Office:  614.850.7818
Toll Free:  800.848.6564
Fax:  614.850.1111

andrew.kelly@honeywell.commailto:andrew.kelly@honeywell.com
measurementsensors.honeywell.com
Twitter: @HoneywellNow


Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:16:14 +0000
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I agree that the APDL solution doesn't work, but for a different reason.  I believe that APDL commands are written to the DS.DAT and only executed in the core kernel (e.g. at solve time).  There is no geometry at all in the DS.DAT, not even WB geometry.

Best regards,

Bram Weisman, P.E.
Senior Principal Engineer - Mechanical Design

Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998.

SBM Offshore USA, Inc.
Website: www.sbmoffshore.comhttp://www.sbmoffshore.com

This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of it's affiliates.

-----Original Message-----
From: Xansys-temp [mailto:xansys-temp-bounces@xansystest.info] On Behalf Of Martin Liddle
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:57 AM
To: xansys-temp@xansystest.infomailto:xansys-temp@xansystest.info
Subject: Re: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB

On 15/02/2016 13:21, Andrew Sims wrote:

Another thought, untested - I see that you have the solutions using the named selection methods. If for some reason you did want to use APDL from WB, maybe you could add a command snippet to do what you want as Juergen suggested, output the data somehow (parameter, write file, log file...) and then include the /EOF or /EXIT command before the solve command to exit without actually solving.

But the APDL solution doesn't work in Workbench because the representation of geometry is different.

--
Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK.
www.tynecomp.co.ukhttp://www.tynecomp.co.uk


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Just putting my thought. Finding no of nodes attached with a surface requires at least 4 to 5 steps to be followed. Since Workbench software was branded as a FEA tool for quick solution, I think these no of steps (effort) are not looking good. I feel, Ansys Inc can work for an easy and direct way to find no of nodes/elements attached to any surface. Or they can release ACT for this kind of requirement. Regards, F.Benjamin Franklin, Ashok Leyland Technical Centre, India. -----Original Message----- From: Xansys-temp [mailto:xansys-temp-bounces@xansystest.info] On Behalf Of Kelly, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:57 PM To: xansys-temp@xansystest.info Subject: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB I'm a wee bit late to this thread and barely paying attention (oh, how I wish the old forum was working), but ... Correct that the DS.DAT command file generated by Mechanical Application doesn't have geometry. Can you make a Named Selection of the face(s), then run the add a command object per Martins suggestion? The named selection comes across as an APDL component of nodes. CMSEL,S,(name) selects the nodes. Then you can use your favorite commands to count them. Remember to add NSEL,all to your command object if you're going to actually run the solution. -- Andrew Andrew Kelly, P.E. Engineering Manager, Load Honeywell | Sensing & Productivity Solutions 2080 Arlingate Lane Columbus, OH 43228 Office: 614.850.7818 Toll Free: 800.848.6564 Fax: 614.850.1111 andrew.kelly@honeywell.com<mailto:andrew.kelly@honeywell.com> measurementsensors.honeywell.com Twitter: @HoneywellNow ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:16:14 +0000 From: "Weisman, Bram" <Bram.Weisman@sbmoffshore.com<mailto:Bram.Weisman@sbmoffshore.com>> To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home <xansys-temp@xansystest.info<mailto:xansys-temp@xansystest.info>> Subject: Re: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB Message-ID: <DD5A0BC48AAB3547AC9AD239BA9BD6BE8478B7B3@USHOUMBX01.corpnet.singlebuoy.com<mailto:DD5A0BC48AAB3547AC9AD239BA9BD6BE8478B7B3@USHOUMBX01.corpnet.singlebuoy.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I agree that the APDL solution doesn't work, but for a different reason. I believe that APDL commands are written to the DS.DAT and only executed in the core kernel (e.g. at solve time). There is no geometry at all in the DS.DAT, not even WB geometry. Best regards, Bram Weisman, P.E. Senior Principal Engineer - Mechanical Design Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998. SBM Offshore USA, Inc. Website: www.sbmoffshore.com<http://www.sbmoffshore.com> This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of it's affiliates. -----Original Message----- From: Xansys-temp [mailto:xansys-temp-bounces@xansystest.info] On Behalf Of Martin Liddle Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:57 AM To: xansys-temp@xansystest.info<mailto:xansys-temp@xansystest.info> Subject: Re: [Xansys] How to get node count in an area- WB On 15/02/2016 13:21, Andrew Sims wrote: > > Another thought, untested - I see that you have the solutions using the named selection methods. If for some reason you did want to use APDL from WB, maybe you could add a command snippet to do what you want as Juergen suggested, output the data somehow (parameter, write file, log file...) and then include the /EOF or /EXIT command before the solve command to exit without actually solving. > But the APDL solution doesn't work in Workbench because the representation of geometry is different. -- Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK. www.tynecomp.co.uk<http://www.tynecomp.co.uk> _______________________________________________ Xansys-temp mailing list Xansys-temp@xansystest.info http://xansystest.info/mailman/listinfo/xansys-temp_xansystest.info If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list The information contained in this communication is privileged, confidential and proprietary, and is intended for the sole use of/by the addressee. Usage by anyone other than the addressee is misuse and infringement to Proprietorship of Ashok Leyland Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy all copies of the original message.