Re: How to Specify Temperature For Material Properties
TUNIF,400
This is an APDL command though.
Keith DiRienz
FEA Technologies
On Oct 4, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:
Folks,
I'm using Mechanical for a static structural analysis that has no thermal loads applied to the ANSYS model. But in Engineering Data, I have defined material properties that span an entire temperature range. Is there a way to tell Mechanical to use material properties only at a certain temperature? In other words, suppose I define material properties in Engineering Data, spanning 0°F through 500°F, and my model does not have any thermal loads actually modeled upon it. Is there a way to tell Mechanical to use the material properties only at 400°F? (i.e., I want it to pull Young's and Poisson's only at 400°F)
Matt Ridzon, PE, MSME
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Dear Mr. Ridzon,
the Static Structural item's details include the "Environment temperature" field where you can specify your desired value. I'm talking about Workbench's Mechanical app.
Best regards
Riccardo Testi
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TUNIF,400
This is an APDL command though.
Keith DiRienz
FEA Technologies
On Oct 4, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:
Folks,
I'm using Mechanical for a static structural analysis that has no
thermal loads applied to the ANSYS model. But in Engineering Data, I
have defined material properties that span an entire temperature
range. Is there a way to tell Mechanical to use material properties
only at a certain temperature? In other words, suppose I define
material properties in Engineering Data, spanning 0°F through 500°F,
and my model does not have any thermal loads actually modeled upon it.
Is there a way to tell Mechanical to use the material properties only
at 400°F? (i.e., I want it to pull Young's and Poisson's only at
400°F)
Matt Ridzon, PE, MSME
Sr. Engineering Analyst
Email matt@prime-engineer.commailto:matt@prime-engineer.com
Mail 266 Main St, Burlington, VT 05401
Web https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prime-engineer.com&e=6e97a7e3&h=87561189&f=y&p=y < https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prime-engineer.com%2F&e=6e97a7e3&h=63971262&f=y&p=y >
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Thanks everyone. All of your solutions are viable options. From quick testing on a simple bar model, it seems like Riccardo's idea would be the simplest. If I set the Static Structural "environment temperature" to the desired temperature, it will pull material properties from Engineering Data at that temperature. The results closely match my hand calculations. In effect, it sets TREF to my desired temperature, which in turn sets TUNIF to the same temperature, and uses the material properties at that temperature.
—Matt
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Dear Mr. Ridzon,
the Static Structural item's details include the "Environment temperature" field where you can specify your desired value. I'm talking about Workbench's Mechanical app.
Best regards
Riccardo Testi
Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone: +39 0587 272850
Fax: +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
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TUNIF,400
This is an APDL command though.
Keith DiRienz
FEA Technologies
On Oct 4, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:
Folks,
I'm using Mechanical for a static structural analysis that has no
thermal loads applied to the ANSYS model. But in Engineering Data, I
have defined material properties that span an entire temperature
range. Is there a way to tell Mechanical to use material properties
only at a certain temperature? In other words, suppose I define
material properties in Engineering Data, spanning 0°F through 500°F,
and my model does not have any thermal loads actually modeled upon it.
Is there a way to tell Mechanical to use the material properties only
at 400°F? (i.e., I want it to pull Young's and Poisson's only at
400°F)
Matt Ridzon, PE, MSME
Sr. Engineering Analyst
Email matt@prime-engineer.commailto:matt@prime-engineer.com
Mail 266 Main St, Burlington, VT 05401
Web https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prime-engineer.com&e=6e97a7e3&h=87561189&f=y&p=y < https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prime-engineer.com%2F&e=6e97a7e3&h=63971262&f=y&p=y >
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