Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

JM
Joe Metrisin (US)
Thu, Mar 27, 2025 11:10 AM

Hi Mladen,

How were you able to get the cluster monitor to work?  The manual (Chapter
10 RSM Troubleshooting) says "The RSM cluster load monitoring application is
no longer functional and is not supported"

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 4:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

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Hi Joe,

FYI,

I have just weeks ago (re)installed RSM and it works as expected, monitoring
and all the usual stuff.

Perhaps, it is the a bit changed, vague install procedure that is troubling
you, as it did me? But it all works as expected once done.

Mladen Meduric

Principal Mechanical Engineer

PHONE+64 3 962 1508

EXT 742

HamiltonJet Global

CWF Hamilton & Co Ltd

Gate 4, 20 Lunns Rd

Christchurch 8024

New Zealand

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Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

We just can't get it to work properly despite our best efforts.  The manual
states that the RSM cluster monitor is no longer supported.  That in itself
is a deal breaker.  There's no way to query a server to see what jobs are
running, if any.

We've been able to submit 2025 jobs with RSM.  Some times they run, some
times they hang at start up.  Most of the time when they finish, WB on the
host doesn't recognize that the job ever completed, so we can't bring the
results back.

ANSYS says they are replacing RSM in the future, but no ETA on the new
software.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

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Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

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I could not find any information on RSM being "dead" at ANSYS 2025 R1.  What
is the source of that information?

Thank You,

James Judd

Kearfott

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Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

Thanks Aaron.

Unfortunately, that isn't an option for us.  We are entirely a Windows
network, and it doesn't look like SLURM is supported on Windows.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

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Subject: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

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Joe,

I use slurm

(
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ
https://urldefense.com/v3/https://www.schedmd.com/slurm/;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ

MQ!ePyRP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19Nezfvny

aiTuHT13jNU9FlhyeDUIfBR$ )  Its FOSS, with an option for paid support (that
I haven't used).  It came installed on our Dell cluster in 2019 so I don't
have experience setting it up from scratch, just administering it.

We have a small Linux cluster with 4 nodes and a small team w/ 4 or 5 users
and it works great for us.  I set it up about 6 years ago and we've run 1.8M
jobs and haven't had any trouble.  RSM even had support for it in newer
versions (at least through Ansys 2023).

Aaron C. Caba, Ph.D.

Sr. Principal R&D Engineer

BAE Systems, Inc.

4050 Peppers Ferry Road, Radford VA 24143-0100
<https://urldefense.com/v3/http:/www.baesystems.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy

https://urldefense.com/v3/http://www.baesystems.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy

RP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19NezfvnyaiTuHT

13jNU9FlhyeeyrtEW$

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Subject: [Xansys] RSM replacement

Since RSM is pretty much dead at ANSYS 2025 R1, what is everyone using as a

job scheduler/manager for your servers?  We're a fairly small company and

can't afford one of these larger tools like LSF.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

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Hi Mladen, How were you able to get the cluster monitor to work? The manual (Chapter 10 RSM Troubleshooting) says "The RSM cluster load monitoring application is no longer functional and is not supported" Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: https://kratosdefense.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. -----Original Message----- From: Mladen Meduric <Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 4:30 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; James Judd <j.judd@kearfott.com>; Caba, Aaron C (US) <aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) <Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Joe, FYI, I have just weeks ago (re)installed RSM and it works as expected, monitoring and all the usual stuff. Perhaps, it is the a bit changed, vague install procedure that is troubling you, as it did me? But it all works as expected once done. Mladen Meduric Principal Mechanical Engineer PHONE+64 3 962 1508 EXT 742 HamiltonJet Global CWF Hamilton & Co Ltd Gate 4, 20 Lunns Rd Christchurch 8024 New Zealand CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2025 03:46 To: James Judd < <mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com> j.judd@kearfott.com>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement We just can't get it to work properly despite our best efforts. The manual states that the RSM cluster monitor is no longer supported. That in itself is a deal breaker. There's no way to query a server to see what jobs are running, if any. We've been able to submit 2025 jobs with RSM. Some times they run, some times they hang at start up. Most of the time when they finish, WB on the host doesn't recognize that the job ever completed, so we can't bring the results back. ANSYS says they are replacing RSM in the future, but no ETA on the new software. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. -----Original Message----- From: James Judd < <mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com> j.judd@kearfott.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:41 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. I could not find any information on RSM being "dead" at ANSYS 2025 R1. What is the source of that information? Thank You, James Judd Kearfott -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:34 AM To: Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement Thanks Aaron. Unfortunately, that isn't an option for us. We are entirely a Windows network, and it doesn't look like SLURM is supported on Windows. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. -----Original Message----- From: Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:25 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [External] - RE: RSM replacement CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Joe, I use slurm ( <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ MQ!ePyRP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19Nezfvny aiTuHT13jNU9FlhyeDUIfBR$ ) Its FOSS, with an option for paid support (that I haven't used). It came installed on our Dell cluster in 2019 so I don't have experience setting it up from scratch, just administering it. We have a small Linux cluster with 4 nodes and a small team w/ 4 or 5 users and it works great for us. I set it up about 6 years ago and we've run 1.8M jobs and haven't had any trouble. RSM even had support for it in newer versions (at least through Ansys 2023). Aaron C. Caba, Ph.D. Sr. Principal R&D Engineer BAE Systems, Inc. 4050 Peppers Ferry Road, Radford VA 24143-0100 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.baesystems.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.baesystems.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy RP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19NezfvnyaiTuHT 13jNU9FlhyeeyrtEW$ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 12:14 PM To: <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] RSM replacement Since RSM is pretty much dead at ANSYS 2025 R1, what is everyone using as a job scheduler/manager for your servers? We're a fairly small company and can't afford one of these larger tools like LSF. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: < <https://kratosdefense.com/%20%20%20> https://kratosdefense.com/ > <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. _____
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Matthew Ridzon, PE
Mon, Mar 31, 2025 3:30 PM

Off topic question for XANSYS Admins...

It seems like I only received about half of the messages associated with this RSM thread.  The only way I know there were missing messages is because I scroll through the few that arrived in my Inbox and see emails sent from other XANSYS participants, using the XANSYS mailing list, but never received those actual messages separately in my Inbox.  I believe someone else was asking about a similar problem in February.  Is there an ongoing problem with the email server or its host?

-Matt

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2025 7:11 AM
To: Mladen Meduric Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz; XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org; James Judd j.judd@kearfott.com; Caba, Aaron C (US) aaron.caba@baesystems.us
Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

Hi Mladen,

How were you able to get the cluster monitor to work?  The manual (Chapter
10 RSM Troubleshooting) says "The RSM cluster load monitoring application is no longer functional and is not supported"

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

Visit our website: https://kratosdefense.com

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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 4:30 PM
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Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

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Hi Joe,

FYI,

I have just weeks ago (re)installed RSM and it works as expected, monitoring and all the usual stuff.

Perhaps, it is the a bit changed, vague install procedure that is troubling you, as it did me? But it all works as expected once done.

Mladen Meduric

Principal Mechanical Engineer

PHONE+64 3 962 1508

EXT 742

HamiltonJet Global

CWF Hamilton & Co Ltd

Gate 4, 20 Lunns Rd

Christchurch 8024

New Zealand

CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.

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Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

We just can't get it to work properly despite our best efforts.  The manual states that the RSM cluster monitor is no longer supported.  That in itself is a deal breaker.  There's no way to query a server to see what jobs are running, if any.

We've been able to submit 2025 jobs with RSM.  Some times they run, some times they hang at start up.  Most of the time when they finish, WB on the host doesn't recognize that the job ever completed, so we can't bring the results back.

ANSYS says they are replacing RSM in the future, but no ETA on the new software.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

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Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

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I could not find any information on RSM being "dead" at ANSYS 2025 R1.  What is the source of that information?

Thank You,

James Judd

Kearfott

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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:34 AM

To: Caba, Aaron C (US) < mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us aaron.caba@baesystems.us>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

Thanks Aaron.

Unfortunately, that isn't an option for us.  We are entirely a Windows network, and it doesn't look like SLURM is supported on Windows.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:25 AM

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Subject: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

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Joe,

I use slurm

(
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ
https://urldefense.com/v3/https://www.schedmd.com/slurm/;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ

MQ!ePyRP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19Nezfvny

aiTuHT13jNU9FlhyeDUIfBR$ )  Its FOSS, with an option for paid support (that I haven't used).  It came installed on our Dell cluster in 2019 so I don't have experience setting it up from scratch, just administering it.

We have a small Linux cluster with 4 nodes and a small team w/ 4 or 5 users and it works great for us.  I set it up about 6 years ago and we've run 1.8M jobs and haven't had any trouble.  RSM even had support for it in newer versions (at least through Ansys 2023).

Aaron C. Caba, Ph.D.

Sr. Principal R&D Engineer

BAE Systems, Inc.

4050 Peppers Ferry Road, Radford VA 24143-0100 <https://urldefense.com/v3/http:/www.baesystems.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy

https://urldefense.com/v3/http://www.baesystems.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy

RP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19NezfvnyaiTuHT

13jNU9FlhyeeyrtEW$

-----Original Message-----

From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 12:14 PM

To:  mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org xansys-temp@list.xansys.org

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: [Xansys] RSM replacement

Since RSM is pretty much dead at ANSYS 2025 R1, what is everyone using as a

job scheduler/manager for your servers?  We're a fairly small company and

can't afford one of these larger tools like LSF.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

< mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>
mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

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Off topic question for XANSYS Admins... It seems like I only received about half of the messages associated with this RSM thread. The only way I know there were missing messages is because I scroll through the few that arrived in my Inbox and see emails sent from other XANSYS participants, using the XANSYS mailing list, but never received those actual messages separately in my Inbox. I believe someone else was asking about a similar problem in February. Is there an ongoing problem with the email server or its host? -Matt -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2025 7:11 AM To: Mladen Meduric <Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz>; XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; James Judd <j.judd@kearfott.com>; Caba, Aaron C (US) <aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) <Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement Hi Mladen, How were you able to get the cluster monitor to work? The manual (Chapter 10 RSM Troubleshooting) says "The RSM cluster load monitoring application is no longer functional and is not supported" Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: https://kratosdefense.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. -----Original Message----- From: Mladen Meduric <Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 4:30 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; James Judd <j.judd@kearfott.com>; Caba, Aaron C (US) <aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) <Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Joe, FYI, I have just weeks ago (re)installed RSM and it works as expected, monitoring and all the usual stuff. Perhaps, it is the a bit changed, vague install procedure that is troubling you, as it did me? But it all works as expected once done. Mladen Meduric Principal Mechanical Engineer PHONE+64 3 962 1508 EXT 742 HamiltonJet Global CWF Hamilton & Co Ltd Gate 4, 20 Lunns Rd Christchurch 8024 New Zealand CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2025 03:46 To: James Judd < <mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com> j.judd@kearfott.com>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement We just can't get it to work properly despite our best efforts. The manual states that the RSM cluster monitor is no longer supported. That in itself is a deal breaker. There's no way to query a server to see what jobs are running, if any. We've been able to submit 2025 jobs with RSM. Some times they run, some times they hang at start up. Most of the time when they finish, WB on the host doesn't recognize that the job ever completed, so we can't bring the results back. ANSYS says they are replacing RSM in the future, but no ETA on the new software. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. -----Original Message----- From: James Judd < <mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com> j.judd@kearfott.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:41 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. I could not find any information on RSM being "dead" at ANSYS 2025 R1. What is the source of that information? Thank You, James Judd Kearfott -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:34 AM To: Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement Thanks Aaron. Unfortunately, that isn't an option for us. We are entirely a Windows network, and it doesn't look like SLURM is supported on Windows. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. -----Original Message----- From: Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:25 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [External] - RE: RSM replacement CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Joe, I use slurm ( <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ MQ!ePyRP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19Nezfvny aiTuHT13jNU9FlhyeDUIfBR$ ) Its FOSS, with an option for paid support (that I haven't used). It came installed on our Dell cluster in 2019 so I don't have experience setting it up from scratch, just administering it. We have a small Linux cluster with 4 nodes and a small team w/ 4 or 5 users and it works great for us. I set it up about 6 years ago and we've run 1.8M jobs and haven't had any trouble. RSM even had support for it in newer versions (at least through Ansys 2023). Aaron C. Caba, Ph.D. Sr. Principal R&D Engineer BAE Systems, Inc. 4050 Peppers Ferry Road, Radford VA 24143-0100 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.baesystems.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.baesystems.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy RP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19NezfvnyaiTuHT 13jNU9FlhyeeyrtEW$ -----Original Message----- From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 12:14 PM To: <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Subject: [Xansys] RSM replacement Since RSM is pretty much dead at ANSYS 2025 R1, what is everyone using as a job scheduler/manager for your servers? We're a fairly small company and can't afford one of these larger tools like LSF. Joseph T Metrisin Structures Lead Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Visit our website: < <https://kratosdefense.com/%20%20%20> https://kratosdefense.com/ > <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please delete the message and immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. _____
MG
Mohammad Gharaibeh
Mon, Mar 31, 2025 7:58 PM

Thanks, Matt, for bringing this up. Me too, I had the same problem where I
only received some of the emails of the thread.

Does this have something to do with the email platform we use? Mine is a
gmail-based address.

Best,
M

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Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 at 6:33 PM Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys <
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Off topic question for XANSYS Admins...

It seems like I only received about half of the messages associated with
this RSM thread.  The only way I know there were missing messages is
because I scroll through the few that arrived in my Inbox and see emails
sent from other XANSYS participants, using the XANSYS mailing list, but
never received those actual messages separately in my Inbox.  I believe
someone else was asking about a similar problem in February.  Is there an
ongoing problem with the email server or its host?

-Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2025 7:11 AM
To: Mladen Meduric Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz; XANSYS Mailing List
Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org; James Judd j.judd@kearfott.com;
Caba, Aaron C (US) aaron.caba@baesystems.us
Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

Hi Mladen,

How were you able to get the cluster monitor to work?  The manual (Chapter
10 RSM Troubleshooting) says "The RSM cluster load monitoring application
is no longer functional and is not supported"

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA
https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

Visit our website: https://kratosdefense.com

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distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  If
you received this communication in error, please delete the message and
immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mladen Meduric Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 4:30 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org; James Judd <
j.judd@kearfott.com>; Caba, Aaron C (US) aaron.caba@baesystems.us
Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
the content is safe.

Hi Joe,

FYI,

I have just weeks ago (re)installed RSM and it works as expected,
monitoring and all the usual stuff.

Perhaps, it is the a bit changed, vague install procedure that is
troubling you, as it did me? But it all works as expected once done.

Mladen Meduric

Principal Mechanical Engineer

PHONE+64 3 962 1508

EXT 742

HamiltonJet Global

CWF Hamilton & Co Ltd

Gate 4, 20 Lunns Rd

Christchurch 8024

New Zealand

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represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this
email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts
no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.

-----Original Message-----

From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2025 03:46

To: James Judd < mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com j.judd@kearfott.com>;
XANSYS Mailing List Home < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:
aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us>

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

We just can't get it to work properly despite our best efforts.  The
manual states that the RSM cluster monitor is no longer supported.  That in
itself is a deal breaker.  There's no way to query a server to see what
jobs are running, if any.

We've been able to submit 2025 jobs with RSM.  Some times they run, some
times they hang at start up.  Most of the time when they finish, WB on the
host doesn't recognize that the job ever completed, so we can't bring the
results back.

ANSYS says they are replacing RSM in the future, but no ETA on the new
software.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA
https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

Visit our website:  https://kratosdefense.com/
https://kratosdefense.com/

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you received this communication in error, please delete the message and
immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above.

-----Original Message-----

From: James Judd < mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com j.judd@kearfott.com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:41 AM

To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C

(US) < mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us aaron.caba@baesystems.us>

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
the content is safe.

I could not find any information on RSM being "dead" at ANSYS 2025 R1.
What is the source of that information?

Thank You,

James Judd

Kearfott

-----Original Message-----

From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:34 AM

To: Caba, Aaron C (US) < mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us
aaron.caba@baesystems.us>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

Thanks Aaron.

Unfortunately, that isn't an option for us.  We are entirely a Windows
network, and it doesn't look like SLURM is supported on Windows.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA
https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g

+1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile

mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com

Visit our website:  https://kratosdefense.com/
https://kratosdefense.com/

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intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  If
you received this communication in error, please delete the message and
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-----Original Message-----

From: Caba, Aaron C (US) < mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us
aaron.caba@baesystems.us>

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:25 AM

To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
the content is safe.

Joe,

I use slurm

(
<
https://urldefense.com/v3/https:/www.schedmd.com/slurm/;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ

https://urldefense.com/v3/https://www.schedmd.com/slurm/;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ

MQ!ePyRP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19Nezfvny

aiTuHT13jNU9FlhyeDUIfBR$ )  Its FOSS, with an option for paid support
(that I haven't used).  It came installed on our Dell cluster in 2019 so I
don't have experience setting it up from scratch, just administering it.

We have a small Linux cluster with 4 nodes and a small team w/ 4 or 5
users and it works great for us.  I set it up about 6 years ago and we've
run 1.8M jobs and haven't had any trouble.  RSM even had support for it in
newer versions (at least through Ansys 2023).

Aaron C. Caba, Ph.D.

Sr. Principal R&D Engineer

BAE Systems, Inc.

4050 Peppers Ferry Road, Radford VA 24143-0100
https://www.google.com/maps/search/4050+Peppers+Ferry+Road,+Radford+VA+24143-0100?entry=gmail&source=g
<
https://urldefense.com/v3/http:/www.baesystems.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy

https://urldefense.com/v3/http://www.baesystems.com;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy

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-----Original Message-----

From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 12:14 PM

To:  mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org xansys-temp@list.xansys.org

Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com
Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com>

Subject: [Xansys] RSM replacement

Since RSM is pretty much dead at ANSYS 2025 R1, what is everyone using as a

job scheduler/manager for your servers?  We're a fairly small company and

can't afford one of these larger tools like LSF.

Joseph T Metrisin

Structures Lead

Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc

1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA
https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g

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Thanks, Matt, for bringing this up. Me too, I had the same problem where I only received some of the emails of the thread. Does this have something to do with the email platform we use? Mine is a gmail-based address. Best, M ===================================== Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering The Hashemite University P.O. Box 330127 Zarqa, 13133, Jordan Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 ===================================== On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 at 6:33 PM Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > Off topic question for XANSYS Admins... > > It seems like I only received about half of the messages associated with > this RSM thread. The only way I know there were missing messages is > because I scroll through the few that arrived in my Inbox and see emails > sent from other XANSYS participants, using the XANSYS mailing list, but > never received those actual messages separately in my Inbox. I believe > someone else was asking about a similar problem in February. Is there an > ongoing problem with the email server or its host? > > -Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2025 7:11 AM > To: Mladen Meduric <Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz>; XANSYS Mailing List > Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; James Judd <j.judd@kearfott.com>; > Caba, Aaron C (US) <aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) <Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement > > Hi Mladen, > > > > How were you able to get the cluster monitor to work? The manual (Chapter > 10 RSM Troubleshooting) says "The RSM cluster load monitoring application > is no longer functional and is not supported" > > > > > > > > > > > > Joseph T Metrisin > > Structures Lead > > > > Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc > > 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g> > > +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile > > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com > > > > Visit our website: https://kratosdefense.com > > > > > > Confidentiality Note: > > The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are > proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you received this communication in error, please delete the message and > immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mladen Meduric <Mladen.Meduric@Hamiltonjet.nz> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 4:30 PM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; James Judd < > j.judd@kearfott.com>; Caba, Aaron C (US) <aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) <Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > FYI, > > I have just weeks ago (re)installed RSM and it works as expected, > monitoring and all the usual stuff. > > Perhaps, it is the a bit changed, vague install procedure that is > troubling you, as it did me? But it all works as expected once done. > > > > > > Mladen Meduric > > Principal Mechanical Engineer > > PHONE+64 3 962 1508 > > EXT 742 > > > > HamiltonJet Global > > CWF Hamilton & Co Ltd > > Gate 4, 20 Lunns Rd > > Christchurch 8024 > > New Zealand > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with > it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error > please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented > in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this > email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts > no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2025 03:46 > > To: James Judd < <mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com> j.judd@kearfott.com>; > XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto: > aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > > Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement > > > > We just can't get it to work properly despite our best efforts. The > manual states that the RSM cluster monitor is no longer supported. That in > itself is a deal breaker. There's no way to query a server to see what > jobs are running, if any. > > > > We've been able to submit 2025 jobs with RSM. Some times they run, some > times they hang at start up. Most of the time when they finish, WB on the > host doesn't recognize that the job ever completed, so we can't bring the > results back. > > > > ANSYS says they are replacing RSM in the future, but no ETA on the new > software. > > > > Joseph T Metrisin > > Structures Lead > > > > Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc > > 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g> > > +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile > > <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com > > > > Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> > https://kratosdefense.com/ > > > > > > Confidentiality Note: > > The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are > proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you received this communication in error, please delete the message and > immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Judd < <mailto:j.judd@kearfott.com> j.judd@kearfott.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:41 AM > > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org>; Caba, Aaron C > > (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > > Subject: RE: [External] - RE: RSM replacement > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > > > > I could not find any information on RSM being "dead" at ANSYS 2025 R1. > What is the source of that information? > > > > Thank You, > > James Judd > > Kearfott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:34 AM > > To: Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > aaron.caba@baesystems.us>; XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto: > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > > Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement > > > > Thanks Aaron. > > > > Unfortunately, that isn't an option for us. We are entirely a Windows > network, and it doesn't look like SLURM is supported on Windows. > > > > Joseph T Metrisin > > Structures Lead > > > > Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc > > 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g> > > +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile > > <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com > > > > Visit our website: <https://kratosdefense.com/> > https://kratosdefense.com/ > > > > > > Confidentiality Note: > > The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are > proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you received this communication in error, please delete the message and > immediately notify the sender via the contact information listed above. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Caba, Aaron C (US) < <mailto:aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > aaron.caba@baesystems.us> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:25 AM > > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > > Subject: [External] - RE: RSM replacement > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > > > > Joe, > > > > I use slurm > > ( > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.schedmd.com/slurm/__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZ > > > MQ!ePyRP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19Nezfvny > > aiTuHT13jNU9FlhyeDUIfBR$ ) Its FOSS, with an option for paid support > (that I haven't used). It came installed on our Dell cluster in 2019 so I > don't have experience setting it up from scratch, just administering it. > > > > We have a small Linux cluster with 4 nodes and a small team w/ 4 or 5 > users and it works great for us. I set it up about 6 years ago and we've > run 1.8M jobs and haven't had any trouble. RSM even had support for it in > newer versions (at least through Ansys 2023). > > > > Aaron C. Caba, Ph.D. > > Sr. Principal R&D Engineer > > BAE Systems, Inc. > > 4050 Peppers Ferry Road, Radford VA 24143-0100 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/4050+Peppers+Ferry+Road,+Radford+VA+24143-0100?entry=gmail&source=g> > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.baesystems.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.baesystems.com__;!!KM6X6ZXWXVtZMQ!ePy > > > RP6K5nFNvBVVW9kKpAMuytvpAHcvfUPrm1AQePTs37VpzkTUQhiCei3lENldy19NezfvnyaiTuHT > > 13jNU9FlhyeeyrtEW$ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Metrisin (US) via Xansys < <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 12:14 PM > > To: <mailto:xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> xansys-temp@list.xansys.org > > Cc: Joe Metrisin (US) < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > > Subject: [Xansys] RSM replacement > > > > Since RSM is pretty much dead at ANSYS 2025 R1, what is everyone using as a > > job scheduler/manager for your servers? We're a fairly small company and > > can't afford one of these larger tools like LSF. > > > > > > > > Joseph T Metrisin > > > > Structures Lead > > > > > > > > Florida Turbine Technologies, Inc > > > > 1701 Military Tr. Suite 110 | Jupiter, FL 33458 USA > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1701+Military+Tr.+Suite+110+%7C+Jupiter,+FL+33458+USA?entry=gmail&source=g> > > > > +1 (561) 427-6346 Office | +1 (772) 834-4156 Mobile > > > > < <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> > <mailto:Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com> Joe.Metrisin@kratosdefense.com > > > > > > > > Visit our website: < <https://kratosdefense.com/%20%20%20> > https://kratosdefense.com/ > > > <https://kratosdefense.com/> https://kratosdefense.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Confidentiality Note: > > > > The information contained in this transmission and any attachments are > proprietary and may be privileged, intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. 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Martin Liddle
Tue, Apr 1, 2025 9:43 AM

On 31/03/2025 20:58, Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys wrote:

Thanks, Matt, for bringing this up. Me too, I had the same problem where I
only received some of the emails of the thread.

Does this have something to do with the email platform we use? Mine is a
gmail-based address.

Looking at the server and at my email there were seven messages in the
thread before the question about non receipt of messages.

There were further posts from Aaron Caba and James Judd that didn't make
it to the server and only appear because they also sent a copy direct to
Joe.

Pease note that all users can look at the online archive if they wish to
check for missing posts.

If users are not seeing their posts come back to them they should report
it to the moderators.

--
Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services,
Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK.
https://www.tynecomp.co.uk

On 31/03/2025 20:58, Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys wrote: > Thanks, Matt, for bringing this up. Me too, I had the same problem where I > only received some of the emails of the thread. > > Does this have something to do with the email platform we use? Mine is a > gmail-based address. > Looking at the server and at my email there were seven messages in the thread before the question about non receipt of messages. There were further posts from Aaron Caba and James Judd that didn't make it to the server and only appear because they also sent a copy direct to Joe. Pease note that all users can look at the online archive if they wish to check for missing posts. If users are not seeing their posts come back to them they should report it to the moderators. -- Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK. https://www.tynecomp.co.uk
MR
Matthew Ridzon, PE
Tue, Apr 1, 2025 11:43 AM

Martin,

Are you saying that this address situation...

TO:  xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
CC:  specific_persons_email@their_mail.com

...will cause the email to not go to the entire user community?

Also, could you provide a link to the online archive please?

-Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Liddle via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 5:44 AM
To: xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Martin Liddle xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement

On 31/03/2025 20:58, Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys wrote:

Thanks, Matt, for bringing this up. Me too, I had the same problem
where I only received some of the emails of the thread.

Does this have something to do with the email platform we use? Mine is
a gmail-based address.

Looking at the server and at my email there were seven messages in the thread before the question about non receipt of messages.

There were further posts from Aaron Caba and James Judd that didn't make it to the server and only appear because they also sent a copy direct to Joe.

Pease note that all users can look at the online archive if they wish to check for missing posts.

If users are not seeing their posts come back to them they should report it to the moderators.

--
Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK.
https://www.tynecomp.co.uk


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Martin, Are you saying that this address situation... TO: xansys-temp@list.xansys.org CC: specific_persons_email@their_mail.com ...will cause the email to not go to the entire user community? Also, could you provide a link to the online archive please? -Matt -----Original Message----- From: Martin Liddle via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 5:44 AM To: xansys-temp@list.xansys.org Cc: Martin Liddle <xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] Re: [External] - RE: RSM replacement On 31/03/2025 20:58, Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys wrote: > Thanks, Matt, for bringing this up. Me too, I had the same problem > where I only received some of the emails of the thread. > > Does this have something to do with the email platform we use? Mine is > a gmail-based address. > Looking at the server and at my email there were seven messages in the thread before the question about non receipt of messages. There were further posts from Aaron Caba and James Judd that didn't make it to the server and only appear because they also sent a copy direct to Joe. Pease note that all users can look at the online archive if they wish to check for missing posts. If users are not seeing their posts come back to them they should report it to the moderators. -- Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, UK. https://www.tynecomp.co.uk _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list