On 08/12/2024 7:42 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Did

/FDELE,osav, keep

I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT

MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply.

Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error.

Thanks for the ideas.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

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Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

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Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

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Summit Analysis, Inc.
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On Aug 19, 2024, at 4:18 AM, Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did submit a ticket in the customer portal..

Case 00098741 was successfully submitted. Please await further communication from our engineers.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

Build B90 Col. H5  cube BK35-251
M/D H358  Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

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Subject: RE: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

Hi Mitch,

To our points...

1. I get a whole bunch of substeps.  The job in question got 80% of the way to the end when it conked.

2. Yes I do get an OSAV while it is running.  As I said, I reran the above job - manually copying the restart files outside the program - and I could restart from my OSAV filel.

3. I HAD to use the osav because the error at the crash was a distorted element.  I tried the esav, but Ansys said it was corrupt.

I would say based on my experience and the responses here that this is a real Ansys bug - I hope there are still Ansys Inc people here lurking.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

Build B90 Col. H5  cube BK35-251
M/D H358  Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:38 AM
To: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com; XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: EXT: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

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Dan,

I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep.

I assume when you said:

that the run successfully completed one or more substeps  before terminating due to the distorted element?  How many substeps have been successfully completed?

If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file.  Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated.

Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav?  Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error?

There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted).  And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward.

Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds.  That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time.  At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

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On Aug 19, 2024, at 4:18 AM, Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did submit a ticket in the customer portal..

Case 00098741 was successfully submitted. Please await further communication from our engineers.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

Build B90 Col. H5  cube BK35-251
M/D H358  Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 6:47 AM
To: 'Mitch Voehl' mitchpublic@voehl.us; XANSYS Mailing List Home
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Cc: Ashok K (GE Aviation) (Ashok.KA@ge.com) Ashok.KA@ge.com;
'jennifer.kirchner@ge.com' jennifer.kirchner@ge.com;
'laine.gillespie@ansys.com' laine.gillespie@ansys.com;
'zach.john@ansys.com' zach.john@ansys.com;
'Carlo.Arguinzoni@ansys.com' Carlo.Arguinzoni@ansys.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

Hi Mitch,

To our points...

1. I get a whole bunch of substeps.  The job in question got 80% of the way to the end when it conked.

2. Yes I do get an OSAV while it is running.  As I said, I reran the above job - manually copying the restart files outside the program - and I could restart from my OSAV filel.

3. I HAD to use the osav because the error at the crash was a distorted element.  I tried the esav, but Ansys said it was corrupt.

I would say based on my experience and the responses here that this is a real Ansys bug - I hope there are still Ansys Inc people here lurking.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

Build B90 Col. H5  cube BK35-251
M/D H358  Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:38 AM
To: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com; XANSYS Mailing
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Subject: EXT: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

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Dan,

I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep.

I assume when you said:

that the run successfully completed one or more substeps  before terminating due to the distorted element?  How many substeps have been successfully completed?

If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file.  Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated.

Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav?  Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error?

There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted).  And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward.

Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds.  That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time.  At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

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On 08/19/2024 6:15 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com wrote:

I did submit a ticket in the customer portal..

Case 00098741 was successfully submitted. Please await further communication from our engineers.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251
M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 6:47 AM
To: 'Mitch Voehl' mitchpublic@voehl.us; XANSYS Mailing List Home
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Cc: Ashok K (GE Aviation) (Ashok.KA@ge.com) Ashok.KA@ge.com;
'jennifer.kirchner@ge.com' jennifer.kirchner@ge.com;
'laine.gillespie@ansys.com' laine.gillespie@ansys.com;
'zach.john@ansys.com' zach.john@ansys.com;
'Carlo.Arguinzoni@ansys.com' Carlo.Arguinzoni@ansys.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

Hi Mitch,

To our points...

1. I get a whole bunch of substeps.  The job in question got 80% of the way to the end when it conked.

2. Yes I do get an OSAV while it is running.  As I said, I reran the above job - manually copying the restart files outside the program - and I could restart from my OSAV filel.

3. I HAD to use the osav because the error at the crash was a distorted element.  I tried the esav, but Ansys said it was corrupt.

I would say based on my experience and the responses here that this is a real Ansys bug - I hope there are still Ansys Inc people here lurking.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251
M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:38 AM
To: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com; XANSYS Mailing
List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: EXT: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

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Dan,

I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep.

I assume when you said:

that the run successfully completed one or more substeps  before terminating due to the distorted element?  How many substeps have been successfully completed?

If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file.  Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated.

Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav?  Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error?

There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted).  And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward.

Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds.  That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time.  At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On Aug 19, 2024, at 4:18 AM, Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did submit a ticket in the customer portal..

Case 00098741 was successfully submitted. Please await further communication from our engineers.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

Build B90 Col. H5  cube BK35-251
M/D H358  Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 6:47 AM
To: 'Mitch Voehl' mitchpublic@voehl.us; XANSYS Mailing List Home
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Ashok K (GE Aviation) (Ashok.KA@ge.com) Ashok.KA@ge.com;
'jennifer.kirchner@ge.com' jennifer.kirchner@ge.com;
'laine.gillespie@ansys.com' laine.gillespie@ansys.com;
'zach.john@ansys.com' zach.john@ansys.com;
'Carlo.Arguinzoni@ansys.com' Carlo.Arguinzoni@ansys.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

Hi Mitch,

To our points...

1. I get a whole bunch of substeps.  The job in question got 80% of the way to the end when it conked.

2. Yes I do get an OSAV while it is running.  As I said, I reran the above job - manually copying the restart files outside the program - and I could restart from my OSAV filel.

3. I HAD to use the osav because the error at the crash was a distorted element.  I tried the esav, but Ansys said it was corrupt.

I would say based on my experience and the responses here that this is a real Ansys bug - I hope there are still Ansys Inc people here lurking.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

Build B90 Col. H5  cube BK35-251
M/D H358  Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:38 AM
To: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com; XANSYS Mailing
List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: EXT: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Dan,

I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep.

I assume when you said:

that the run successfully completed one or more substeps  before terminating due to the distorted element?  How many substeps have been successfully completed?

If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file.  Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated.

Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav?  Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error?

There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted).  And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward.

Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds.  That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time.  At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

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