I would echo Mike’s recommendation. I work in the Nuclear Power Industry and deal with this subject matter virtually all of the time. Charles Becht delivers good training on ASME related subjects - piping/stress analysis, pressure vessel design, etc. ASME also offers many trainings online or in-person, both entry-level and advanced (I’ve taken various piping analysis courses for Class 1/2/3 analysis among other analysis/design courses).

Justin Warren
Principal Engineer
Duke Energy

On Sep 1, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Caba, Aaron (US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

Check The National Board <https://www.nationalboard.org/ https://www.nationalboard.org/>. The National Board is the professional society of pretty much everyone involved in pressure vessel law and oversight. All the Code shop authorized inspectors and state pressure vessel regulation are National Board members, which is frequently a legal requirement.

This assignment could be a treat or it could be a nightmare. If you've never been involved in pressure vessel and piping fabrication or QA, you're gonna be a babe in the woods 'looking around' for problems. and you're going to be dealing with people who don't want to hear about problems. I got into the pressure vessel biz in the 60's and thought I was pretty hot shit with most of a master's degree and a shelf full of Code books—turned out not to be quite the case…

But you need to know your way around a fab shop and you'll need to know a lot about QA and shop practice and be on good terms with a lot of people. Some shops are easy to walk through and a treat to be around. Others have bad relationships with engineering offices and you won't get much co-operation until you're properly socialized.

My years with pressure vessel work—full time and off-and-on—were an ongoing delight. I got to the point where I'd do it for free. You'll love it. But classes are only a way to get started. You're not going to learn one thing that'll keep you from being led around like a puppy in any shop I've ever worked around.

If I were you I'd find a pressure vessel inspector to hire hourly (not, repeat-not, a fellow employee) so I could run interference with all the people who will be fighting you, tooth and nail, to keep from doing or fixing or changing anything. (If nothing needs fixing, all the better) I've had a few assignments resembling yours over the years, and it can really be interesting and a way to meet some very cool people and learn a lot, provided you've got some diplomatic skills and some some influential friends.

Check the ASME and NBPVI web sites for classes, and take an intro if you don't know anything at all about the Code. But remember such classes only teach you some vocabulary and a few basics you could easily learn on your own.That would be some simple arithmetic and a few generalities about material selection and the meaning of basic QA provisions. Probably stuff you ought to learn on your own.

Christopher Wright P.E. (ret'd) |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
chrisw@skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania (1864)
http://www.skypoint.com/members/chrisw/

Remember that the codes are for original construction. You will probably be asked to evaluate additional nozzles, a bigger nozzle, existing cracks found during inspections, etc. There is a Post Construction committee in the ASME that may be of help. There are some experienced (old) people in the committee who could be of help. I used to be one of them.

George Montgomery, PE
gmontgomery@nc.rr.com
http://www.georgemontgomerype.com

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On Sep 1, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Caba, Aaron (US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

Check The National Board <https://www.nationalboard.org/ https://www.nationalboard.org/>. The National Board is the professional society of pretty much everyone involved in pressure vessel law and oversight. All the Code shop authorized inspectors and state pressure vessel regulation are National Board members, which is frequently a legal requirement.

This assignment could be a treat or it could be a nightmare. If you've never been involved in pressure vessel and piping fabrication or QA, you're gonna be a babe in the woods 'looking around' for problems. and you're going to be dealing with people who don't want to hear about problems. I got into the pressure vessel biz in the 60's and thought I was pretty hot shit with most of a master's degree and a shelf full of Code books—turned out not to be quite the case…

But you need to know your way around a fab shop and you'll need to know a lot about QA and shop practice and be on good terms with a lot of people. Some shops are easy to walk through and a treat to be around. Others have bad relationships with engineering offices and you won't get much co-operation until you're properly socialized.

My years with pressure vessel work—full time and off-and-on—were an ongoing delight. I got to the point where I'd do it for free. You'll love it. But classes are only a way to get started. You're not going to learn one thing that'll keep you from being led around like a puppy in any shop I've ever worked around.

If I were you I'd find a pressure vessel inspector to hire hourly (not, repeat-not, a fellow employee) so I could run interference with all the people who will be fighting you, tooth and nail, to keep from doing or fixing or changing anything. (If nothing needs fixing, all the better) I've had a few assignments resembling yours over the years, and it can really be interesting and a way to meet some very cool people and learn a lot, provided you've got some diplomatic skills and some some influential friends.

Check the ASME and NBPVI web sites for classes, and take an intro if you don't know anything at all about the Code. But remember such classes only teach you some vocabulary and a few basics you could easily learn on your own.That would be some simple arithmetic and a few generalities about material selection and the meaning of basic QA provisions. Probably stuff you ought to learn on your own.

Christopher Wright P.E. (ret'd) |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
chrisw@skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania (1864)
http://www.skypoint.com/members/chrisw/

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Totally agree with Mike's suggestion. Besides, you can also check out some introductory courses offered by CASTI, Lloyd's Register and TUV.

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I would echo Mike’s recommendation. I work in the Nuclear Power Industry and deal with this subject matter virtually all of the time. Charles Becht delivers good training on ASME related subjects - piping/stress analysis, pressure vessel design, etc. ASME also offers many trainings online or in-person, both entry-level and advanced (I’ve taken various piping analysis courses for Class 1/2/3 analysis among other analysis/design courses).

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Totally agree with Mike's suggestion. Besides, you can also check out some introductory courses offered by CASTI, Lloyd's Register and TUV.

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I would echo Mike’s recommendation. I work in the Nuclear Power Industry and deal with this subject matter virtually all of the time. Charles Becht delivers good training on ASME related subjects - piping/stress analysis, pressure vessel design, etc. ASME also offers many trainings online or in-person, both entry-level and advanced (I’ve taken various piping analysis courses for Class 1/2/3 analysis among other analysis/design courses).

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Duke Energy

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Hi,

I have worked in Pressure Vessels and Piping for the last 25 years.  Becht
is excellent, but so is Equity Engineering (
https://www.e2g.com/industry-insights/).  Whichever works for you, you
can't go wrong.

Thx,

Michael Dowhopoluk*, M.Eng.**, P.Eng.*
Principal Engineer
*PVP Engineering Ltd. *
1.403.390.7341

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