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Bohlen, Dan (GE Aviation, US)

Thu, Oct 10, 2019 4:32 PM

Any ideas what this means

*** WARNING *** CP = 14.555 TIME= 12:30:29
This ANSYS database has both Smooth and Web based Data. There are
possible problems with using this data.

Dan thankuansysforthecrypticwarning Bohlen
Senior/ SSt Engineer, Stress Analyst
STAR review chairman, Fan, Booster, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH 45215 USA
Build BBEC Col P13 cube 2S147
M/D Mail Drop BBC2 (2nd fl, Q13) 1-513-243-2366

Any ideas what this means *** WARNING *** CP = 14.555 TIME= 12:30:29 This ANSYS database has both Smooth and Web based Data. There are possible problems with using this data. Dan thankuansysforthecrypticwarning Bohlen Senior/ SSt Engineer, Stress Analyst STAR review chairman, Fan, Booster, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH 45215 USA Build BBEC Col P13 cube 2S147 M/D Mail Drop BBC2 (2nd fl, Q13) 1-513-243-2366

TC

Tom Chadwick

Thu, Oct 10, 2019 5:09 PM

Dan,
Here is the information on the Ansys customer portal on this message:

The message matters. This error message may be caused by mixing the data types and is not related to what type of CAD model is imported.

When a user imports the Parasolid model and toggles on, the model data will go to XOX, and the model data is called Web based.

If it is turned off, the model data will go to the native MADPDL database, and it's called Smooth.

If a user defeatures the model and then creates geometries inside MAPDL, there will be mixed data which can cause problems later.

  Tom Chadwick
  Senior CFD Engineer
  PADT, Inc.
  www.padtinc.com
  480.813.4884
  tom.chadwick@padtinc.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aviation, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:33 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home (xansys-temp@xansystest.info) xansys-temp@xansystest.info
Cc: Myers, Henry (GE Aviation, US) henry.myers@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] new warning message 17.2 classic

Any ideas what this means

*** WARNING *** CP = 14.555 TIME= 12:30:29
This ANSYS database has both Smooth and Web based Data. There are possible problems with using this data.

Dan thankuansysforthecrypticwarning Bohlen
Senior/ SSt Engineer, Stress Analyst
STAR review chairman, Fan, Booster, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH 45215 USA
Build BBEC Col P13 cube 2S147
M/D Mail Drop BBC2 (2nd fl, Q13) 1-513-243-2366

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Dan, Here is the information on the Ansys customer portal on this message: The message matters. This error message may be caused by mixing the data types and is not related to what type of CAD model is imported. When a user imports the Parasolid model and toggles on, the model data will go to XOX, and the model data is called Web based. If it is turned off, the model data will go to the native MADPDL database, and it's called Smooth. If a user defeatures the model and then creates geometries inside MAPDL, there will be mixed data which can cause problems later. Tom Chadwick Senior CFD Engineer PADT, Inc. www.padtinc.com 480.813.4884 tom.chadwick@padtinc.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that copying, forwarding, printing or otherwise disseminating the information contained in or attached to this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by telephone, and immediately and permanently delete and destroy all copies and printouts of this e-mail message and/or attachments. -----Original Message----- From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aviation, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:33 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home (xansys-temp@xansystest.info) <xansys-temp@xansystest.info> Cc: Myers, Henry (GE Aviation, US) <henry.myers@ge.com> Subject: [Xansys] new warning message 17.2 classic Any ideas what this means *** WARNING *** CP = 14.555 TIME= 12:30:29 This ANSYS database has both Smooth and Web based Data. There are possible problems with using this data. Dan thankuansysforthecrypticwarning Bohlen Senior/ SSt Engineer, Stress Analyst STAR review chairman, Fan, Booster, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH 45215 USA Build BBEC Col P13 cube 2S147 M/D Mail Drop BBC2 (2nd fl, Q13) 1-513-243-2366 _______________________________________________ Xansys-temp mailing list Xansys-temp@xansystest.info http://xansystest.info/mailman/listinfo/xansys-temp_xansystest.info If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

GK

Gallagher, Keith (GE Aviation, US)

Thu, Oct 10, 2019 5:47 PM

True, but I've gotten this several times over the years.

My two cents. If the modeling methods are between separate parts, it's not likely to cause an issue.
Also, it can cause issues but not a definite. Lots of other things that can cause similar issues. (corrupted geometry)

Half my models require keeping a connected (geometry associative version) and one that is disassociated for solve anyway.
Never understood why a solution has to bomb out when the mesh is fine, and you're not applying geometry based loads.

Good luck Dan!

Keith Gallagher
Senior Staff Engineer
GE Aviation

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Chadwick tom.chadwick@padtinc.com
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:09 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home xansys-temp@xansystest.info
Subject: EXT: Re: [Xansys] new warning message 17.2 classic

Dan,
Here is the information on the Ansys customer portal on this message:

The message matters. This error message may be caused by mixing the data types and is not related to what type of CAD model is imported.

When a user imports the Parasolid model and toggles on, the model data will go to XOX, and the model data is called Web based.

If it is turned off, the model data will go to the native MADPDL database, and it's called Smooth.

If a user defeatures the model and then creates geometries inside MAPDL, there will be mixed data which can cause problems later.

  Tom Chadwick
  Senior CFD Engineer
  PADT, Inc.
  www.padtinc.com
  480.813.4884
  tom.chadwick@padtinc.com
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that copying, forwarding, printing or otherwise disseminating the information contained in or attached to this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by telephone, and immediately and permanently delete and destroy all copies and printouts of this e-mail message and/or attachments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aviation, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:33 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home (xansys-temp@xansystest.info) xansys-temp@xansystest.info
Cc: Myers, Henry (GE Aviation, US) henry.myers@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] new warning message 17.2 classic

Any ideas what this means

*** WARNING *** CP = 14.555 TIME= 12:30:29
This ANSYS database has both Smooth and Web based Data. There are possible problems with using this data.

Dan thankuansysforthecrypticwarning Bohlen
Senior/ SSt Engineer, Stress Analyst
STAR review chairman, Fan, Booster, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH 45215 USA
Build BBEC Col P13 cube 2S147
M/D Mail Drop BBC2 (2nd fl, Q13) 1-513-243-2366

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Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

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True, but I've gotten this several times over the years. My two cents. If the modeling methods are between separate parts, it's not likely to cause an issue. Also, it can cause issues but not a definite. Lots of other things that can cause similar issues. (corrupted geometry) Half my models require keeping a connected (geometry associative version) and one that is disassociated for solve anyway. Never understood why a solution has to bomb out when the mesh is fine, and you're not applying geometry based loads. Good luck Dan! Keith Gallagher Senior Staff Engineer GE Aviation -----Original Message----- From: Tom Chadwick <tom.chadwick@padtinc.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:09 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home <xansys-temp@xansystest.info> Subject: EXT: Re: [Xansys] new warning message 17.2 classic Dan, Here is the information on the Ansys customer portal on this message: The message matters. This error message may be caused by mixing the data types and is not related to what type of CAD model is imported. When a user imports the Parasolid model and toggles on, the model data will go to XOX, and the model data is called Web based. If it is turned off, the model data will go to the native MADPDL database, and it's called Smooth. If a user defeatures the model and then creates geometries inside MAPDL, there will be mixed data which can cause problems later. Tom Chadwick Senior CFD Engineer PADT, Inc. www.padtinc.com 480.813.4884 tom.chadwick@padtinc.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that copying, forwarding, printing or otherwise disseminating the information contained in or attached to this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by telephone, and immediately and permanently delete and destroy all copies and printouts of this e-mail message and/or attachments. -----Original Message----- From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aviation, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:33 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Temporary Home (xansys-temp@xansystest.info) <xansys-temp@xansystest.info> Cc: Myers, Henry (GE Aviation, US) <henry.myers@ge.com> Subject: [Xansys] new warning message 17.2 classic Any ideas what this means *** WARNING *** CP = 14.555 TIME= 12:30:29 This ANSYS database has both Smooth and Web based Data. There are possible problems with using this data. Dan thankuansysforthecrypticwarning Bohlen Senior/ SSt Engineer, Stress Analyst STAR review chairman, Fan, Booster, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH 45215 USA Build BBEC Col P13 cube 2S147 M/D Mail Drop BBC2 (2nd fl, Q13) 1-513-243-2366 _______________________________________________ Xansys-temp mailing list Xansys-temp@xansystest.info http://xansystest.info/mailman/listinfo/xansys-temp_xansystest.info If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys-temp mailing list Xansys-temp@xansystest.info http://xansystest.info/mailman/listinfo/xansys-temp_xansystest.info If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

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