APDL Command to Rename Directory

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Matthew Ridzon, PE
Thu, Jul 25, 2024 11:46 AM

I don't have a model in front of me, but as Mohammad stated, I do believe PowerGraphics plays a part in this.  Try a small test model with if off, and then on.

However, to your actual question...I don't believe PRNSOL is restricted to the surface nodes.  I believe it outputs results for all selected nodes, whether interior or exterior.  If you only wanted output for exterior nodes,  you would have to deselect all interior nodes.

—Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 3:50 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh mgharai1@binghamton.edu
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

Riccardo,

What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model?

Below is written in TFM:

PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics (
/GRAPHICS
https://www.mm.bme.hu/~gyebro/files/ans_help_v182/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_GRAPHICS.html,POWER),
results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear sirs,
would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the
requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface?
That's the behavior I observed with some tests.
Thank you very much

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
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I don't have a model in front of me, but as Mohammad stated, I do believe PowerGraphics plays a part in this. Try a small test model with if off, and then on. However, to your actual question...I don't believe PRNSOL is restricted to the surface nodes. I believe it outputs results for all selected nodes, whether interior or exterior. If you only wanted output for exterior nodes, you would have to deselect all interior nodes. —Matt -----Original Message----- From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 3:50 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh <mgharai1@binghamton.edu> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL Riccardo, What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model? Below is written in TFM: PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics ( */GRAPHICS* <https://www.mm.bme.hu/~gyebro/files/ans_help_v182/ans_cmd/Hlp_C_GRAPHICS.html>,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only. I hope this helps. Best, Mohammad ===================================== Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering The Hashemite University P.O. Box 330127 Zarqa, 13133, Jordan Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 ===================================== On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > Dear sirs, > would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the > requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface? > That's the behavior I observed with some tests. > Thank you very much > > Best regards > Riccardo Testi > --- > Development and Strategies > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to > Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
TR
Testi Riccardo
Thu, Jul 25, 2024 11:59 AM

Dear Mr. Gharaibeh,
I tried both ways: /GRAP,POWE and /GRAP;FULL. Same outcome.
Thank you very much

Best regards


-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:50 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh mgharai1@binghamton.edu
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

Riccardo,

What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model?

Below is written in TFM:

PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics (
/GRAPHICS
< https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=76317aaf&f=y&p=y >,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear sirs,
would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the
requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface?
That's the behavior I observed with some tests.
Thank you very much

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
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Dear Mr. Gharaibeh, I tried both ways: /GRAP,POWE and /GRAP;FULL. Same outcome. Thank you very much Best regards --- -----Original Message----- From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:50 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh <mgharai1@binghamton.edu> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Riccardo, What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model? Below is written in TFM: PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics ( */GRAPHICS* < https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=76317aaf&f=y&p=y >,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only. I hope this helps. Best, Mohammad ===================================== Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering The Hashemite University P.O. Box 330127 Zarqa, 13133, Jordan Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 ===================================== On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > Dear sirs, > would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the > requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface? > That's the behavior I observed with some tests. > Thank you very much > > Best regards > Riccardo Testi > --- > Development and Strategies > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to > Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
MG
Mohammad Gharaibeh
Thu, Jul 25, 2024 7:14 PM

Here is what ChatGPT suggests:

=====

If ANSYS is showing results only for surface nodes when using PRNSOL, it
suggests there might be a selection filter applied, or the view might be
restricted to surface nodes. To ensure that PRNSOL outputs data for all
nodes, make sure no specific selection is limiting the nodes. Here are a
few steps to ensure you're getting the results for all nodes:

  1. Clear Any Previous Selections: ANSYS ALLSEL,ALL ! Ensure all entities are selected

  2. Print Nodal Solution Data for All Nodes: ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Print nodal displacements (for example)

  3. Check Element and Node Selection Status:

nodes are selected ```

4. **Reissue the PRNSOL Command:**

```ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Reissue the command to print nodal displacements ```

If you've followed these steps and are still only seeing results for
surface nodes, it could be due to: -

**Viewing Limitations**: Sometimes, the graphical display might be limiting
visibility to surface nodes. Ensure you're checking the text output in the
ANSYS command log or output file.

**Model Definition**: Verify that your model actually includes internal
nodes. In some mesh configurations, internal nodes might not be present if,
for example, you're working with shell elements.

If you continue experiencing issues, providing a snippet of your ANSYS
script or a detailed description of your model setup could help identify
the problem more precisely.

====

Again, I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====




On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 3:01 PM Testi Riccardo via Xansys <
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear Mr. Gharaibeh,
I tried both ways: /GRAP,POWE and /GRAP;FULL. Same outcome.
Thank you very much

Best regards


-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:50 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh mgharai1@binghamton.edu
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
content is safe.

Riccardo,

What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model?

Below is written in TFM:

PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics (
/GRAPHICS
<
https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=76317aaf&f=y&p=y

,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys <
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear sirs,
would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the
requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface?
That's the behavior I observed with some tests.
Thank you very much

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
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Here is what ChatGPT suggests: ===== If ANSYS is showing results only for surface nodes when using `PRNSOL`, it suggests there might be a selection filter applied, or the view might be restricted to surface nodes. To ensure that `PRNSOL` outputs data for all nodes, make sure no specific selection is limiting the nodes. Here are a few steps to ensure you're getting the results for all nodes: 1. **Clear Any Previous Selections:** ```ANSYS ALLSEL,ALL ! Ensure all entities are selected ``` 2. **Print Nodal Solution Data for All Nodes:** ```ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Print nodal displacements (for example) ``` 3. **Check Element and Node Selection Status:** ```ANSYS ESEL,ALL ! Ensure all elements are selected NSEL,ALL ! Ensure all nodes are selected ``` 4. **Reissue the PRNSOL Command:** ```ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Reissue the command to print nodal displacements ``` If you've followed these steps and are still only seeing results for surface nodes, it could be due to: - **Viewing Limitations**: Sometimes, the graphical display might be limiting visibility to surface nodes. Ensure you're checking the text output in the ANSYS command log or output file. **Model Definition**: Verify that your model actually includes internal nodes. In some mesh configurations, internal nodes might not be present if, for example, you're working with shell elements. If you continue experiencing issues, providing a snippet of your ANSYS script or a detailed description of your model setup could help identify the problem more precisely. ==== Again, I hope this helps. Best, Mohammad ===================================== Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering The Hashemite University P.O. Box 330127 Zarqa, 13133, Jordan Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 ===================================== On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 3:01 PM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > Dear Mr. Gharaibeh, > I tried both ways: /GRAP,POWE and /GRAP;FULL. Same outcome. > Thank you very much > > Best regards > > --- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:50 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh <mgharai1@binghamton.edu> > Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > Riccardo, > > What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model? > > Below is written in TFM: > > PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics ( > */GRAPHICS* > < > https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=76317aaf&f=y&p=y > >,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only. > > > I hope this helps. > > Best, > Mohammad > > ===================================== > Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Mechanical Engineering > The Hashemite University > P.O. Box 330127 > Zarqa, 13133, Jordan > Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 > Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 > ===================================== > > > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > Dear sirs, > > would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the > > requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface? > > That's the behavior I observed with some tests. > > Thank you very much > > > > Best regards > > Riccardo Testi > > --- > > Development and Strategies > > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to > > Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an > email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many > emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode > which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org > To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org > If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing > account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
TR
Testi Riccardo
Fri, Jul 26, 2024 9:51 AM

Dear Mr. Ridzon,
I carried out tests with both options of the /GRAP command. Only the exterior nodes' data were output.
Thank you very much

BTE version 2024R1

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 1:47 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Matthew Ridzon, PE Matt@prime-engineer.com
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

I don't have a model in front of me, but as Mohammad stated, I do believe PowerGraphics plays a part in this.  Try a small test model with if off, and then on.

However, to your actual question...I don't believe PRNSOL is restricted to the surface nodes.  I believe it outputs results for all selected nodes, whether interior or exterior.  If you only wanted output for exterior nodes,  you would have to deselect all interior nodes.

—Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 3:50 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh mgharai1@binghamton.edu
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

Riccardo,

What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model?

Below is written in TFM:

PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics (
/GRAPHICS
< https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=76317aaf&f=y&p=y >,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear sirs,
would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the
requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface?
That's the behavior I observed with some tests.
Thank you very much

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com


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Dear Mr. Ridzon, I carried out tests with both options of the /GRAP command. Only the exterior nodes' data were output. Thank you very much BTE version 2024R1 Best regards Riccardo Testi --- Development and Strategies 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre Piaggio & C. S.p.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Ridzon, PE via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 1:47 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Matthew Ridzon, PE <Matt@prime-engineer.com> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. I don't have a model in front of me, but as Mohammad stated, I do believe PowerGraphics plays a part in this. Try a small test model with if off, and then on. However, to your actual question...I don't believe PRNSOL is restricted to the surface nodes. I believe it outputs results for all selected nodes, whether interior or exterior. If you only wanted output for exterior nodes, you would have to deselect all interior nodes. —Matt -----Original Message----- From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 3:50 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh <mgharai1@binghamton.edu> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL Riccardo, What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model? Below is written in TFM: PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For PowerGraphics ( */GRAPHICS* < https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=76317aaf&f=y&p=y >,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only. I hope this helps. Best, Mohammad ===================================== Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering The Hashemite University P.O. Box 330127 Zarqa, 13133, Jordan Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 ===================================== On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > Dear sirs, > would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs the > requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface? > That's the behavior I observed with some tests. > Thank you very much > > Best regards > Riccardo Testi > --- > Development and Strategies > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to > Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
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Testi Riccardo
Fri, Jul 26, 2024 10:40 AM

Dear Mr. Gharaibeh,
I selected everything and checked that everything was selected before issuing the PRNSOL command.
As for the Viewing limitation, I directed the output both to the APDL GUI pop-up window and to an external file: same result, that is, only the external nodes were listed.
As for the Model Definition".... well, it's reassuring for the human race that ChatGPT still has flaws.

Thank you very much

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:14 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh mgharai1@binghamton.edu
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

Here is what ChatGPT suggests:

=====

If ANSYS is showing results only for surface nodes when using PRNSOL, it suggests there might be a selection filter applied, or the view might be restricted to surface nodes. To ensure that PRNSOL outputs data for all nodes, make sure no specific selection is limiting the nodes. Here are a few steps to ensure you're getting the results for all nodes:

  1. Clear Any Previous Selections: ANSYS ALLSEL,ALL ! Ensure all entities are selected

  2. Print Nodal Solution Data for All Nodes: ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Print nodal displacements (for example)

  3. Check Element and Node Selection Status:

ANSYS ESEL,ALL ! Ensure all elements are selected NSEL,ALL ! Ensure all nodes are selected

  1. Reissue the PRNSOL Command:

ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Reissue the command to print nodal displacements

If you've followed these steps and are still only seeing results for surface nodes, it could be due to: -

Viewing Limitations: Sometimes, the graphical display might be limiting visibility to surface nodes. Ensure you're checking the text output in the ANSYS command log or output file.

Model Definition: Verify that your model actually includes internal nodes. In some mesh configurations, internal nodes might not be present if, for example, you're working with shell elements.

If you continue experiencing issues, providing a snippet of your ANSYS script or a detailed description of your model setup could help identify the problem more precisely.

====

Again, I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 3:01 PM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear Mr. Gharaibeh,
I tried both ways: /GRAP,POWE and /GRAP;FULL. Same outcome.
Thank you very much

Best regards


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:50 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh mgharai1@binghamton.edu
Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
know the content is safe.

Riccardo,

What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model?

Below is written in TFM:

PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For
PowerGraphics (
/GRAPHICS
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https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro%
2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=7
6317aaf&f=y&p=y

,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Mohammad

---====
Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Hashemite University
P.O. Box 330127
Zarqa, 13133, Jordan
Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771
Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348

---====

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys <
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote:

Dear sirs,
would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs
the requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface?
That's the behavior I observed with some tests.
Thank you very much

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
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Dear Mr. Gharaibeh, I selected everything and checked that everything was selected before issuing the PRNSOL command. As for the Viewing limitation, I directed the output both to the APDL GUI pop-up window and to an external file: same result, that is, only the external nodes were listed. As for the Model Definition".... well, it's reassuring for the human race that ChatGPT still has flaws. Thank you very much -----Original Message----- From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:14 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh <mgharai1@binghamton.edu> Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Here is what ChatGPT suggests: ===== If ANSYS is showing results only for surface nodes when using `PRNSOL`, it suggests there might be a selection filter applied, or the view might be restricted to surface nodes. To ensure that `PRNSOL` outputs data for all nodes, make sure no specific selection is limiting the nodes. Here are a few steps to ensure you're getting the results for all nodes: 1. **Clear Any Previous Selections:** ```ANSYS ALLSEL,ALL ! Ensure all entities are selected ``` 2. **Print Nodal Solution Data for All Nodes:** ```ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Print nodal displacements (for example) ``` 3. **Check Element and Node Selection Status:** ```ANSYS ESEL,ALL ! Ensure all elements are selected NSEL,ALL ! Ensure all nodes are selected ``` 4. **Reissue the PRNSOL Command:** ```ANSYS PRNSOL,U ! Reissue the command to print nodal displacements ``` If you've followed these steps and are still only seeing results for surface nodes, it could be due to: - **Viewing Limitations**: Sometimes, the graphical display might be limiting visibility to surface nodes. Ensure you're checking the text output in the ANSYS command log or output file. **Model Definition**: Verify that your model actually includes internal nodes. In some mesh configurations, internal nodes might not be present if, for example, you're working with shell elements. If you continue experiencing issues, providing a snippet of your ANSYS script or a detailed description of your model setup could help identify the problem more precisely. ==== Again, I hope this helps. Best, Mohammad ===================================== Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering The Hashemite University P.O. Box 330127 Zarqa, 13133, Jordan Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 ===================================== On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 3:01 PM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > Dear Mr. Gharaibeh, > I tried both ways: /GRAP,POWE and /GRAP;FULL. Same outcome. > Thank you very much > > Best regards > > --- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohammad Gharaibeh via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 9:50 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Mohammad Gharaibeh <mgharai1@binghamton.edu> > Subject: [Xansys] Re: [External Email] PRNSOL > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > Riccardo, > > What are the PowerGraphics settings in your model? > > Below is written in TFM: > > PowerGraphics can affect your nodal solution listings. For > PowerGraphics ( > */GRAPHICS* > < > https://urlsand.esvalabs.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mm.bme.hu%2F~gyebro% > 2Ffiles%2Fans_help_v182%2Fans_cmd%2FHlp_C_GRAPHICS.html&e=6e97a7e3&h=7 > 6317aaf&f=y&p=y > >,POWER), results are listed for the model exterior surfaces only. > > > I hope this helps. > > Best, > Mohammad > > ===================================== > Mohammad A Gharaibeh, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Mechanical Engineering > The Hashemite University > P.O. Box 330127 > Zarqa, 13133, Jordan > Tel: +962 - 5 - 390 3333 Ext. 4771 > Fax: +962 - 5 - 382 6348 > ===================================== > > > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 9:06 AM Testi Riccardo via Xansys < > xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > Dear sirs, > > would you mind letting me know whether the PRNSOL command outputs > > the requested quantities only at the nodes located on a body's surface? > > That's the behavior I observed with some tests. > > Thank you very much > > > > Best regards > > Riccardo Testi > > --- > > Development and Strategies > > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe > > send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are > > receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing > > account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to > Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to > Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. 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Testi Riccardo
Wed, Jul 31, 2024 6:59 AM

Dear Sirs,
I have an Ansys 2024R1 nonlinear model which runs smoothly on 16 cores using a Winbox. I chose the Sparse solver for the job.
I submitted the same job on a Linux cluster, asking for 32 cores. The jobs failed due to an exceeded dof limit.
I submitted it again on the same HW, asking for 16 cores. This time it ran, but complaining about excessive penetration, while the Win job did not experienced that issues.
My main suspect is the way the contact pairs are split for the DMP approach. I did not play with CHCHECK.
Would you mind letting me know whether any of you has observed the same phenomenon?
Thank you very much

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
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E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

Dear Sirs, I have an Ansys 2024R1 nonlinear model which runs smoothly on 16 cores using a Winbox. I chose the Sparse solver for the job. I submitted the same job on a Linux cluster, asking for 32 cores. The jobs failed due to an exceeded dof limit. I submitted it again on the same HW, asking for 16 cores. This time it ran, but complaining about excessive penetration, while the Win job did not experienced that issues. My main suspect is the way the contact pairs are split for the DMP approach. I did not play with CHCHECK. Would you mind letting me know whether any of you has observed the same phenomenon? Thank you very much Best regards Riccardo Testi --- Development and Strategies 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre Piaggio & C. S.p.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com