FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

BD
Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sat, Aug 3, 2024 2:32 PM

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file Hi All, I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. Any ideas why? Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH 45215 USA
TR
Testi Riccardo
Mon, Aug 5, 2024 6:55 AM

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Deqr Mr. Bohlen, have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? Best regards Riccardo Testi --- Development and Strategies 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre Piaggio & C. S.p.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com -----Original Message----- From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file Hi All, I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. Any ideas why? Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH 45215 USA _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
BD
Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Thu, Aug 8, 2024 4:04 PM

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, What should I set it to? 0? Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH  45215   USA -----Original Message----- From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. Deqr Mr. Bohlen, have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? Best regards Riccardo Testi --- Development and Strategies 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre Piaggio & C. S.p.A Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY Phone: +39 0587 272850 Fax: +39 0587 272010 Mobile: +39 339 7241918 E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com -----Original Message----- From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file Hi All, I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. Any ideas why? Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH 45215 USA _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
MV
Mitch Voehl
Sat, Aug 10, 2024 6:28 AM

Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org
If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Dan, Check the status of the following commands for your run: /FDELE EMATWRITE MSAVE Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 www.summitanalysis.com Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, > > What should I set it to? 0? > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts > GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > Deqr Mr. Bohlen, > have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? > > Best regards > Riccardo Testi > --- > Development and Strategies > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> > Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM > To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file > > Hi All, > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. > > Any ideas why? > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH 45215 USA > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org > To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org > If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
KD
Keith DiRienz
Sat, Aug 10, 2024 11:15 PM

Is the OSAV necessary ?  The OSAV is needed only if the ESAV is missing or incomplete.

Keith DiRienz
FEA Technologies
Dana Point, CA

On Aug 9, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Mitch Voehl via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:


Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org
If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org
If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Is the OSAV necessary ? The OSAV is needed only if the ESAV is missing or incomplete. Keith DiRienz FEA Technologies Dana Point, CA > On Aug 9, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > >  > Dan, > > Check the status of the following commands for your run: > > /FDELE > EMATWRITE > MSAVE > > Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. > > -- > Mitch Voehl > CEO and Engineering Consultant > > Summit Analysis, Inc. > 78748 410th Ave > Lakefield, MN 56150 > > 651-287-2360 > www.summitanalysis.com > > Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > >> On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: >> >> >> I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, >> >> What should I set it to? 0? >> >> Dan Bohlen >> Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis >> STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts >> GE Aircraft Engines >> 1 Neumann Way >> Evendale, OH 45215 USA >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM >> To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> >> Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file >> >> WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. >> >> Deqr Mr. Bohlen, >> have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? >> >> Best regards >> Riccardo Testi >> --- >> Development and Strategies >> 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre >> Piaggio & C. S.p.A >> Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 >> 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY >> Phone: +39 0587 272850 >> Fax: +39 0587 272010 >> Mobile: +39 339 7241918 >> E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM >> To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> >> Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file >> >> CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. >> >> >> From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) >> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM >> To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file >> >> Hi All, >> >> I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. >> >> Any ideas why? >> >> Dan Bohlen >> Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis >> STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines >> 1 Neumann Way >> Evendale, OH 45215 USA >> _______________________________________________ >> Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. >> >> Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. >> >> Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list >> _______________________________________________ >> Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org >> If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. >> >> Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org > To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org > If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
BD
Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Mon, Aug 12, 2024 11:00 AM

Hi Mitch,

I have checked /FDELE  - I will check the others!

I've never kept up with Ansys Inc's nomenclature.  I am using Ansys "APDL"  (classic) - not Workbench.  I live in the /prep7, /solu, /post1 universe.

I have gotten around the problem once with a CYGWIN (UNIX) script that copied the restart files every 10 seconds to a new name.  I was able to use the OSAV file - restart and finish my run.  But still interested in fixing this issue the right way.

Thanks to all for the tips.  I realize I'm some of the last hold outs using classic.....

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251 
M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and
nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural
run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no
osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send
an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too
many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Hi Mitch, I have checked /FDELE - I will check the others! I've never kept up with Ansys Inc's nomenclature. I am using Ansys "APDL" (classic) - not Workbench. I live in the /prep7, /solu, /post1 universe. I have gotten around the problem once with a CYGWIN (UNIX) script that copied the restart files every 10 seconds to a new name. I was able to use the OSAV file - restart and finish my run. But still interested in fixing this issue the right way. Thanks to all for the tips. I realize I'm some of the last hold outs using classic..... Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH  45215   USA Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251  M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402 Building 200 1st floor Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail) “In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mitch Voehl <mitchpublic@voehl.us> Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. Dan, Check the status of the following commands for your run: /FDELE EMATWRITE MSAVE Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 www.summitanalysis.com Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and > nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, > > What should I set it to? 0? > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static > structural run - why no osav file > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > Deqr Mr. Bohlen, > have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? > > Best regards > Riccardo Testi > --- > Development and Strategies > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys > <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> > Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural > run - why no osav file > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM > To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no > osav file > > Hi All, > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. > > Any ideas why? > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH 45215 USA > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
BD
Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Mon, Aug 12, 2024 11:02 AM

Yep, my job was ending with a distorted element error.  Even the Ansys output mentions I need the OSAV to do a restart.

It had been a long time since I've needed to use an osav file.

Thanks,

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251 
M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith DiRienz via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 7:16 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Keith DiRienz fea-technologies@cox.net
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Is the OSAV necessary ?  The OSAV is needed only if the ESAV is missing or incomplete.

Keith DiRienz
FEA Technologies
Dana Point, CA

On Aug 9, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Mitch Voehl via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:


Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and
nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural
run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no
osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe
send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are
receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send
an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too
many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Yep, my job was ending with a distorted element error. Even the Ansys output mentions I need the OSAV to do a restart. It had been a long time since I've needed to use an osav file. Thanks, Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH  45215   USA Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251  M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402 Building 200 1st floor Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail) “In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming -----Original Message----- From: Keith DiRienz via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 7:16 PM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Keith DiRienz <fea-technologies@cox.net> Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. Is the OSAV necessary ? The OSAV is needed only if the ESAV is missing or incomplete. Keith DiRienz FEA Technologies Dana Point, CA > On Aug 9, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > >  > Dan, > > Check the status of the following commands for your run: > > /FDELE > EMATWRITE > MSAVE > > Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. > > -- > Mitch Voehl > CEO and Engineering Consultant > > Summit Analysis, Inc. > 78748 410th Ave > Lakefield, MN 56150 > > 651-287-2360 > www.summitanalysis.com > > Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > >> On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: >> >> >> I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and >> nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, >> >> What should I set it to? 0? >> >> Dan Bohlen >> Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis >> STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines >> 1 Neumann Way >> Evendale, OH 45215 USA >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM >> To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> >> Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static >> structural run - why no osav file >> >> WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. >> >> Deqr Mr. Bohlen, >> have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? >> >> Best regards >> Riccardo Testi >> --- >> Development and Strategies >> 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre >> Piaggio & C. S.p.A >> Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 >> 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY >> Phone: +39 0587 272850 >> Fax: +39 0587 272010 >> Mobile: +39 339 7241918 >> E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys >> <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM >> To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> >> Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural >> run - why no osav file >> >> CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. >> >> >> From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) >> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM >> To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> >> Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no >> osav file >> >> Hi All, >> >> I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. >> >> Any ideas why? >> >> Dan Bohlen >> Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis >> STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines >> 1 Neumann Way >> Evendale, OH 45215 USA >> _______________________________________________ >> Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. >> >> Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to >> xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. >> >> Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to >> xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list >> _______________________________________________ >> Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe >> send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are >> receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. >> >> Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to >> xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
BD
Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Mon, Aug 12, 2024 12:42 PM

Hi Mitch,

Did

/FDELE,osav, keep

I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT

MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply.

Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error.

Thanks for the ideas.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and
nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural
run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no
osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send
an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too
many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Hi Mitch, Did /FDELE,osav, keep I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply. Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error. Thanks for the ideas. Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH  45215   USA -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Cc: Mitch Voehl <mitchpublic@voehl.us> Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. Dan, Check the status of the following commands for your run: /FDELE EMATWRITE MSAVE Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 www.summitanalysis.com Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and > nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, > > What should I set it to? 0? > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static > structural run - why no osav file > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > Deqr Mr. Bohlen, > have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? > > Best regards > Riccardo Testi > --- > Development and Strategies > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys > <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> > Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural > run - why no osav file > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM > To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no > osav file > > Hi All, > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. > > Any ideas why? > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH 45215 USA > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list _______________________________________________ Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
MV
Mitch Voehl
Tue, Aug 13, 2024 9:38 AM

Dan,

I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep.

I assume when you said:

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.

that the run successfully completed one or more substeps  before terminating due to the distorted element?  How many substeps have been successfully completed?

If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file.  Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated.

Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav?  Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error?

I am using Ansys "APDL"  (classic) - not Workbench.  I live in the /prep7, /solu, /post1 universe.

There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted).  And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward.

I have gotten around the problem once with a CYGWIN (UNIX) script that copied the restart files every 10 seconds to a new name.  I was able to use the OSAV file - restart and finish my run.  But still interested in fixing this issue the right way.

Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds.  That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time.  At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/12/2024 7:42 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Did

/FDELE,osav, keep

I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT

MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply.

Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error.

Thanks for the ideas.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this) and
nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults  ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural
run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no
osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send
an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too
many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Dan, I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep. I assume when you said: > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. that the run successfully completed one or more substeps before terminating due to the distorted element? How many substeps have been successfully completed? If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file. Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated. Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav? Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error? > I am using Ansys "APDL" (classic) - not Workbench. I live in the /prep7, /solu, /post1 universe. There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted). And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward. > I have gotten around the problem once with a CYGWIN (UNIX) script that copied the restart files every 10 seconds to a new name. I was able to use the OSAV file - restart and finish my run. But still interested in fixing this issue the right way. Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds. That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time. At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all. -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 www.summitanalysis.com Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 08/12/2024 7:42 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> wrote: > > > Hi Mitch, > > Did > > /FDELE,osav, keep > > I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT > > MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply. > > Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error. > > Thanks for the ideas. > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts > GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Mitch Voehl <mitchpublic@voehl.us> > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > > Dan, > > Check the status of the following commands for your run: > > /FDELE > EMATWRITE > MSAVE > > Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. > > -- > Mitch Voehl > CEO and Engineering Consultant > > Summit Analysis, Inc. > 78748 410th Ave > Lakefield, MN 56150 > > 651-287-2360 > www.summitanalysis.com > > Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > > > On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > > > > I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) and > > nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults ncnv,1, > > > > What should I set it to? 0? > > > > Dan Bohlen > > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > > 1 Neumann Way > > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM > > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> > > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static > > structural run - why no osav file > > > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > > > Deqr Mr. Bohlen, > > have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? > > > > Best regards > > Riccardo Testi > > --- > > Development and Strategies > > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys > > <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM > > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> > > Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural > > run - why no osav file > > > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > > > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) > > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM > > To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no > > osav file > > > > Hi All, > > > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. > > > > Any ideas why? > > > > Dan Bohlen > > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > > 1 Neumann Way > > Evendale, OH 45215 USA > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send > > an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too > > many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list
BD
Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Mon, Aug 19, 2024 10:47 AM

Hi Mitch,

To our points...

  1. I get a whole bunch of substeps.  The job in question got 80% of the way to the end when it conked.

  2. Yes I do get an OSAV while it is running.  As I said, I reran the above job - manually copying the restart files outside the program - and I could restart from my OSAV filel.

  3. I HAD to use the osav because the error at the crash was a distorted element.  I tried the esav, but Ansys said it was corrupt.

I would say based on my experience and the responses here that this is a real Ansys bug - I hope there are still Ansys Inc people here lurking.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts
GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251 
M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402

Building 200 1st floor
Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail)

“In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:38 AM
To: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com; XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: EXT: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Dan,

I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep.

I assume when you said:

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.

that the run successfully completed one or more substeps  before terminating due to the distorted element?  How many substeps have been successfully completed?

If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file.  Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated.

Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav?  Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error?

I am using Ansys "APDL"  (classic) - not Workbench.  I live in the /prep7, /solu, /post1 universe.

There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted).  And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward.

I have gotten around the problem once with a CYGWIN (UNIX) script that copied the restart files every 10 seconds to a new name.  I was able to use the OSAV file - restart and finish my run.  But still interested in fixing this issue the right way.

Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds.  That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time.  At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/12/2024 7:42 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Did

/FDELE,osav, keep

I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT

MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply.

Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error.

Thanks for the ideas.

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Mitch Voehl mitchpublic@voehl.us
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Dan,

Check the status of the following commands for your run:

/FDELE
EMATWRITE
MSAVE

Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution.  This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical.

--
Mitch Voehl
CEO and Engineering Consultant

Summit Analysis, Inc.
78748 410th Ave
Lakefield, MN 56150

651-287-2360
www.summitanalysis.com

Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software

On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org wrote:

I did a cdwrit  (as there seems to be no status command for this)
and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults
ncnv,1,

What should I set it to?  0?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215   USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Testi Riccardo riccardo.testi@piaggio.com
Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static
structural run - why no osav file

WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe.

Deqr Mr. Bohlen,
have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command?

Best regards
Riccardo Testi

Development and Strategies
2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre
Piaggio & C. S.p.A
Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25
56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY
Phone:  +39 0587 272850
Fax:        +39 0587 272010
Mobile: +39 339 7241918
E-mail:    riccardo.testi@piaggio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys
xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM
To: XANSYS Mailing List Home xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) dan.bohlen@ge.com
Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural
run - why no osav file

CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US)
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM
To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' xansys-temp@list.xansys.org
Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no
osav file

Hi All,

I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error.  Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file.

Any ideas why?

Dan Bohlen
Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis
STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines
1 Neumann Way
Evendale, OH  45215  USA


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe
send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are
receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list


Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day.

Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to
xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list

Hi Mitch, To our points... 1) I get a whole bunch of substeps. The job in question got 80% of the way to the end when it conked. 2) Yes I do get an OSAV while it is running. As I said, I reran the above job - manually copying the restart files outside the program - and I could restart from my OSAV filel. 3) I HAD to use the osav because the error at the crash was a distorted element. I tried the esav, but Ansys said it was corrupt. I would say based on my experience and the responses here that this is a real Ansys bug - I hope there are still Ansys Inc people here lurking. Dan Bohlen Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines 1 Neumann Way Evendale, OH  45215   USA Build B90 Col. H5   cube BK35-251  M/D H358   Cell  513-917-3402 Building 200 1st floor Col. Ma11  cube 1N026  3-4868 (no voicemail) “In God we trust, all others bring data.” W Edwards Deming -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Voehl <mitchpublic@voehl.us> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:38 AM To: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com>; XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> Subject: EXT: RE: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no osav file WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. Dan, I believe that in order to have an osav file that ANSYS had to have created an esav file in a previous iteration/substep. I assume when you said: > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. that the run successfully completed one or more substeps before terminating due to the distorted element? How many substeps have been successfully completed? If for some reason ANSYS is terminating on the first substep of the run, perhaps there will be no osav, only an esav file. Also, my recollection of single frame restarts is that sometimes one had to manually copy the osav file to esav, or vice versa, depending on where in the equilibrium iteration process the run terminated. Can you just restart using the esav file, instead of osav? Maybe whatever esav file you have contains the previous successful element state, and has not yet been moved to osav and reformed due to the distorted element error? > I am using Ansys "APDL" (classic) - not Workbench. I live in the /prep7, /solu, /post1 universe. There is much to like about that world; most things worked (present situation excepted). And the scripting ability is pretty amazing and straight forward. > I have gotten around the problem once with a CYGWIN (UNIX) script that copied the restart files every 10 seconds to a new name. I was able to use the OSAV file - restart and finish my run. But still interested in fixing this issue the right way. Hmmm, I used to have a Unix script that would clear the X window and list all files in the solution directory containing jobname (ls -l $1.* ) every few seconds. That way I could at least keep an eye on what was going on, and if some file suddenly appeared or disappeared, I could look in the jobname.out, jobname.stat, or jobname.mntr files to see what ANSYS was doing at that time. At least that would let you know if it was even creating an osav file at some point or not creating it at all. -- Mitch Voehl CEO and Engineering Consultant Summit Analysis, Inc. 78748 410th Ave Lakefield, MN 56150 651-287-2360 www.summitanalysis.com Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > On 08/12/2024 7:42 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> wrote: > > > Hi Mitch, > > Did > > /FDELE,osav, keep > > I was already getting an esav file, but did add EMATWRIT > > MSAVE - I'm using sparse - so doesn't apply. > > Still no joy....no OSAV file kept after an element formulation error. > > Thanks for the ideas. > > Dan Bohlen > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > 1 Neumann Way > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitch Voehl via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:29 AM > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > Cc: Mitch Voehl <mitchpublic@voehl.us> > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static > structural run - why no osav file > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > > Dan, > > Check the status of the following commands for your run: > > /FDELE > EMATWRITE > MSAVE > > Also, your subject line says you are using ANSYS Classic, but if you are using ANSYS Mechanical to launch your solution session, check the Analysis Settings options to see whether it is set to retain or automatically delete temporary files after solution. This may delete your .osav file before the (incomplete) results are sent back to ANSYS Mechanical. > > -- > Mitch Voehl > CEO and Engineering Consultant > > Summit Analysis, Inc. > 78748 410th Ave > Lakefield, MN 56150 > > 651-287-2360 > www.summitanalysis.com > > Specializing in the use of ANSYS (R) finite element analysis software > > > On 08/08/2024 11:04 AM CDT Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> wrote: > > > > > > I did a cdwrit (as there seems to be no status command for this) > > and nothing in the cdb file - so I'm assuming I get the defaults > > ncnv,1, > > > > What should I set it to? 0? > > > > Dan Bohlen > > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > > 1 Neumann Way > > Evendale, OH  45215   USA > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Testi Riccardo via Xansys <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:55 AM > > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Cc: Testi Riccardo <riccardo.testi@piaggio.com> > > Subject: EXT: [Xansys] Re: Ansys classic - I am doing a static > > structural run - why no osav file > > > > WARNING: This email originated from outside of GE. Please validate the sender's email address before clicking on links or attachments as they may not be safe. > > > > Deqr Mr. Bohlen, > > have you specified KSTOP=1 or KSTOP=2 for the NCNV command? > > > > Best regards > > Riccardo Testi > > --- > > Development and Strategies > > 2 Wheeler Engines Technical Centre > > Piaggio & C. S.p.A > > Viale Rinaldo Piaggio, 25 > > 56025 Pontedera (Pisa) - ITALY > > Phone: +39 0587 272850 > > Fax: +39 0587 272010 > > Mobile: +39 339 7241918 > > E-mail: riccardo.testi@piaggio.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) via Xansys > > <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2024 4:32 PM > > To: XANSYS Mailing List Home <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Cc: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) <dan.bohlen@ge.com> > > Subject: [Xansys] FW: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural > > run - why no osav file > > > > CAUTION:This email originated from outside the Piaggio Group. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > > > > From: Bohlen, Dan (GE Aerospace, US) > > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 3:47 PM > > To: 'XANSYS Mailing List Home' <xansys-temp@list.xansys.org> > > Subject: Ansys classic - I am doing a static structural run - why no > > osav file > > > > Hi All, > > > > I had a single frame solution running it conked out at about 90% load and ended with a distorted element error. Was going to try to restart, but there was no .osav file. > > > > Any ideas why? > > > > Dan Bohlen > > Senior Engineer, Stress Analysis > > STAR review chairman, Cold Structures, Mounts GE Aircraft Engines > > 1 Neumann Way > > Evendale, OH 45215 USA > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > > _______________________________________________ > > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe > > send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are > > receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list > _______________________________________________ > Xansys mailing list -- xansys-temp@list.xansys.org To unsubscribe send an email to xansys-temp-leave@list.xansys.org If you are receiving too many emails from XANSYS please consider changing account settings to Digest mode which will send a single email per day. > > Please send administrative requests such as deletion from XANSYS to > xansys-mod@tynecomp.co.uk and not to the list